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if Santorum wins this state I will be completely devastated.


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what about midterm elections? does anyone see either the senate or the house flipping?


Unlikely, but I do see Democratic gains in both houses.


This is pretty much right on.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Of course, there's 8 months for them to blow it with stuff like "Censuring" Bush.

Here's a quick political lesson, dolts:


"Now, the party's Left apparently believes it's time to switch back to type and bolster Bush's national-security credentials by demonstrating the Democrats' own lack of seriousness in the War on Terror.

"The Feingold proposal is a disaster on all levels for the Democrats, but it is a boon to the Wisconsin senator, thus capturing the current Democratic political dilemma in microcosm. The left-wing netroots are rallying to Feingold's proposal, and posting the phone numbers of Democratic senators, so Bush haters everywhere can call to urge them to vote for the Feingold's censure resolution. These bloggers and their readers are a key part of Feingold's constituency for a run for the 2008 presidential nomination from the left. Anything Feingold does to please them helps himself, even if it is irrational and harmful to his party's interests. . . . The resolution will surely strike most Americans as mindless partisanship."

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Eamon D'VeLooGAR Wrote:
Of course, there's 8 months for them to blow it with stuff like "Censuring" Bush.

Here's a quick political lesson, dolts:


"Now, the party's Left apparently believes it's time to switch back to type and bolster Bush's national-security credentials by demonstrating the Democrats' own lack of seriousness in the War on Terror.

"The Feingold proposal is a disaster on all levels for the Democrats, but it is a boon to the Wisconsin senator, thus capturing the current Democratic political dilemma in microcosm. The left-wing netroots are rallying to Feingold's proposal, and posting the phone numbers of Democratic senators, so Bush haters everywhere can call to urge them to vote for the Feingold's censure resolution. These bloggers and their readers are a key part of Feingold's constituency for a run for the 2008 presidential nomination from the left. Anything Feingold does to please them helps himself, even if it is irrational and harmful to his party's interests. . . . The resolution will surely strike most Americans as mindless partisanship."


Mindless partisanship from ('most) anyone else, yes. If Pelosi was introducing this, or Conyers (even he, yes), say, your crit would apply, LooG. But as it stands, Feingold's been pretty firm on principle -- check the record during the run-up to/events of impeachment proceedings in the Senate -- and is a known reformer -- McCain-Feingold -- so for him to do this, while it's personally a good move to stroke his potential primary base, it's also not mere grandstanding.

Basically, it comes down to Feingold is the real outsider on the M-F law's name.... McCain plays the outsider to lull us into submission, but what's he doing now, toward Bush, and after Bush (surrogates) basically called McCain a "race-polluting, serially adulterous, molly-coddler of the dark side (by which I mean, his wife's and his Bangladeshi daughter, as well the Dems/progressives (see: McCain-Feingold))" during the SC primary in '00? He's sucking the teat that feeds.... Plus, McCain's ties to Abramoff, from back in the day -- like, five years ago -- aren't for nothing.


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That's great. True believers are even worse than grandstanders in my book. BLECH.

And guess whose ads won his tight race in 2000? oh, that's right, the one's funded by DSCC soft money.

And, this type of thing is what Repubs were mad at McCain for -- personal gain at the expense of The Party.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Eamon D'VeLooGAR Wrote:
That's great. True believers are even worse than grandstanders in my book. BLECH.

And guess whose ads won his tight race in 2000? oh, that's right, the one's funded by DSCC soft money.

And, this type of thing is what Repubs were mad at McCain for -- personal gain at the expense of The Party.


Well, all's forgiven now that he's slobbing Bush's knob. So much for "integrity."


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Senator Eamon D'VeLooGAR Wrote:
And guess whose ads won his tight race in 2000? oh, that's right, the one's funded by DSCC soft money.


'98, homey.

And, Feingold asked for the ads to be pulled within twenty-four hours of their unveiling. Consequently, the effect on the electorate to vote for him, due possibly misleading ads from the DSCC, was off-set by the fact that he maintained his principle against soft-money.

Lastly, it was the '98 race when I encountered, for the first and only time, voter fraud. Classmate of mine at Ripon College, Nick Cargola (yes, his real name, and, yes, you can turn him in... for vote fraud, or cocaine possession (heard he got into blow after graduating)), voted in Fond du Lac County and for the federal offices up-for-election there, then voted in suburban Chicago (Elk Grove Village, where he had his permanent residence), AND DUDE WAS/IS A REPUBLICAN. RABIDLY SO.

Just food for thought.


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Politics be damned sometimes. Thank God someone has the courage to publicly censure our president.

Did Bush's preemptive war talk today raise the neck hairs of anyone else here? Egad, this guy is so friggin dangerous. I pray we make it 3 more years with him at the helm. He hasn't even learned a thing from the DEBACLE that is Iraq.


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Earl Butz in '08!

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Saint Wrote:
Politics be damned sometimes. Thank God someone has the courage to publicly censure our president.

Did Bush's preemptive war talk today raise the neck hairs of anyone else here? Egad, this guy is so friggin dangerous. I pray we make it 3 more years with him at the helm. He hasn't even learned a thing from the DEBACLE that is Iraq.


i remember listening to him talk before he was elected and thinking "oh man . . . this dude wins he is going to take us to war. fuuuuuuck"

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Politics be damned sometimes. Thank God someone has the courage to publicly censure our president.

Did Bush's preemptive war talk today raise the neck hairs of anyone else here? Egad, this guy is so friggin dangerous. I pray we make it 3 more years with him at the helm. He hasn't even learned a thing from the DEBACLE that is Iraq.


Iran has been on the cards before you even entered Afghanistan


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oh joy... get your war on.


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Derek Phillips Wrote:
Senator Eamon D'VeLooGAR Wrote:
That's great. True believers are even worse than grandstanders in my book. BLECH.

And guess whose ads won his tight race in 2000? oh, that's right, the one's funded by DSCC soft money.

And, this type of thing is what Repubs were mad at McCain for -- personal gain at the expense of The Party.


Well, all's forgiven now that he's slobbing Bush's knob. So much for "integrity."


But don't we like McCain because he is a "true believer", isn't that what is packaged? Not a politician, but a maverick hero of courage and integrity. And as far as grandstanding, he avoids the media relentlessly of course.

As I wrote earlier in this thread, the irony that McCain may lose attractiveness by aligning himself to W in a carefully choreographed dance of knob-worship is Greek in its tragic comedy.

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It's almost embarrassing to watch McCain kiss bush's arse after the trash slung his way in 00.


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