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i've thrown my back out once again and my office chair is killing me. thinking about getting one of these to relieve the pressure on my lower back.

has anyone tried one?


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Yeah..OPA.


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They're so amazing. So comfortable. And they straighten you out like nothing else. I'm not sure what it would be like sitting on one for 8 hours though. Eh, probably ok.

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if you decide not to get one, my roommate just threw out his back and he got one of those lower back pads that you strap to your chair (his is like a horizontal cylinder), and he said it works really well. he also got a prescription for it, so it was free.


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And they straighten you out like nothing else.


Then Obgoblin is clearly wrong.


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I used to have one over a decade ago. Ignore what anyone else tells you - those chairs totally suck. From my experience, they do more harm than good for a person's back.


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I had one a while ago, and enjoyed it i guess....but i agree, on being curious on how i would hold up after 8 hours.

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I used to have one over a decade ago. Ignore what anyone else tells you - those chairs totally suck. From my experience, they do more harm than good for a person's back.


My experience as well.

Jason, I have had some serious back probs lately, and I took to sitting in a smaller, solid directors-type chair, and heating whenever possible. (Heated seats in the truck helps)

Don't know what else you are doing, but the stretch where you pull your knee to your chest helps immensely, as does a pillow or something like Haqster is pumping.

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Yeah..OPA.


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And the Quick-Draw award goes to...

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shit. i'm at the end of my rope...i don't know what to do anymore. i've been dealing with this on and off for over 2 years. i do the ice, the heat, the stretching, the strengthening. i've tried the lumbar support. chiropractic and accupuncture too. 90% of my pain comes from sitting. well hopefully work will pay for one of these chairs and i'll just try it out. i'm never at work for 8 hours anyways, much less sitting the whole time....
i am weary though that, like radcliffe says, it could do more harm than good....


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elephantstone,


When I had chronic back pain after a minor car accident what helped me the most was going to a jacuzzi-style whirlpool + over the counter medicines for muscle pain (i.e. Motrin).

After a week I felt much better. Those hot water jets really loosen the lower back up. Try it for a week every day, half an hour to an hour in the evenings...

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have you taken muscle relaxants? my roommate got those, too.


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trust me, i've tried it all. i've even had a CT Scan which revealed a slight disk bulge.

my problem is that i aggravate my back (this time it was skiing) and my pelvis rotates (more OPA jokes here) and muscles spasm and hold my pelvis and i'm completely crooked. sitting just aggravates it more.

i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now, and that should help. i'm just looking for some work relief. maybe one of those stand up workstations if this kneeling chair doesn't work.

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i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now

That's your problem right there. Find yourself a good physiotherapist (a GOOD one) and leave the chiropractors with their brethren faith healers and witch doctors.


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i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now

That's your problem right there. Find yourself a good physiotherapist (a GOOD one) and leave the chiropractors with their brethren faith healers and witch doctors.

i did a bunch of PT too, and that really did help the most. my thinking right now though is that i need to get re-aligned asap. once that's done, i'm going back to PT.

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i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now

That's your problem right there. Find yourself a good physiotherapist (a GOOD one) and leave the chiropractors with their brethren faith healers and witch doctors.


Don't forget their crooked pens. :lol: Those get me every time. :roll:

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I've never sat in one of those.

Is this where estone goes to straighten his post count?

(I know, I'm sorry)

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If you get one of these chairs, get one with arms.

(also note that you can not lean back while sitting in one of these, or they flip over faster than a $2 hooker wanting it in the brown eye.)


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Radcliffe Wrote:
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i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now

That's your problem right there. Find yourself a good physiotherapist (a GOOD one) and leave the chiropractors with their brethren faith healers and witch doctors.


chiropractors should be outlawed...one step above scientology

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Radcliffe Wrote:
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i'm starting up another round of chiropractic right now

That's your problem right there. Find yourself a good physiotherapist (a GOOD one) and leave the chiropractors with their brethren faith healers and witch doctors.


chiropractors should be outlawed...one step above scientology


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I've been to an excellent chiropractor. And acupunturist. Both also happen to be genuine medical-like doctors, as well.

There's a remarkable amount of contempt and dismissal on this board regarding certain topics.

That would include religion, alternative medicine, gay peeps, hippies, and all music Msgr. Radcliffe has subjectively deemed pansy-wuss.

It hones this board to a super sharp sheen, gives it that giant "my opinion is no more valid than yours, but I'm very specific about what I hate" glow.


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I have used one of those for extended periods, a full days worth of sitting. It's OK, not great. It may aggravate other problems you may have. I found that I kept sliding down until all my weight was on my knees. maybe it wasn't adjusted properly. What I found that really helps is to get up and walk around the building every hour or so. stretch, get coffee or just something so that you aren't always in the same position.

If you do get one try changing between that and a regular chair every few days.

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I've been to an excellent chiropractor. And acupunturist. Both also happen to be genuine medical-like doctors, as well.

There's a remarkable amount of contempt and dismissal on this board regarding certain topics.

That would include religion, alternative medicine, gay peeps, hippies, and all music Msgr. Radcliffe has subjectively deemed pansy-wuss.

It hones this board to a super sharp sheen, gives it that giant "my opinion is no more valid than yours, but I'm very specific about what I hate" glow.


Couldn't agree with your comments here more - If you need a simple adjustment Chiropractic care can be great......it is the people who end up having to go in daily or weekly for an adjustment that I tend to think might be getting ripped off.

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I've been to an excellent chiropractor. And acupunturist. Both also happen to be genuine medical-like doctors, as well.

You're quite right that chiropractors are "medical-like doctors". They do their best to be "like" doctors. But they're not doctors. They aren't required to hold a doctorate, and neither are they required to hold the degree of a general practitioner. They don't possess the training of a real doctor, which is partly what makes them so dangerous.

Contrast that to physiotherapists, who hold the same undergraduate degree as medical doctors, and yet they STILL don't refer to themselves as doctors.

Chiropractic was invented by Canadian Daniel David Palmer. He was the kind of dude who, like L. Ron Hubbard, believed he was a prophet - and he was obsessed with finding "nature's Great Secret" - the single cure for all disease.

At first he dabbled in magnetic healing. Practitioners of magnetic healing believed that their personal magnetism was so great that it gave them the power to cure disease. But then, after 9 years as a magnetic healer, he made his "discovery":

In his book At Your Own Risk; The Case Against Chiropractic, Ralph Lee Smith Wrote:
On the block where his offices were located, Palmer says, there worked a janitor named Harvey Lillard who had been deaf for seventeen years. Palmer made inquiry and found that "when he [Lillard] was exerting himself in a cramped, stooping position, he felt something give way in his back and immediately became deaf."

Palmer examined Lillard and found a subluxated (misaligned) vertebra in his spine. "I reasoned that if that vertebra was replaced," said Palmer, "the man's hearing should be restored. With this object in view, a half-hour's talk persuaded Mr. Lillard to allow me to replace it."

Palmer laid Lillard down on his stomach on an examining couch, and applied a firm pressure to the vertebra with his hands. The vertebra moved back into place, "and soon the man could hear as before."

Magnetic healer Palmer could hardly be expected to know that the nerves of hearing are self-contained in the head and do not reach the spine. And the reader is entitled to wonder how Palmer discussed Lillard's problem with him for a half hour while Lillard was deaf. But Palmer believed that he was on the track of the Great Secret.

"Shortly after this relief from deafness, I had a case of heart trouble which was not improving. I examined the spine and found a displaced vertebra pressing against the nerves which innervate the heart. I adjusted the vertebra and gave immediate relief. . . "

"Then I began to reason," he continued, "if two diseases, so dissimilar as deafness and heart trouble, came from impingement, a pressure on nerves, were not other disease [sic] due to a similar cause?"


That was all the proof Palmer needed. All disease was caused by nerves that are pinched by a misaligned spine. The cure consists in applying manual pressure on the misaligned vertebrae and forcing them back into place. That was the beginning of chiropractic.

Of course, chiropractors have adapted with the times. Most of the theories their "science" was based on have been inarguably disproved through modern medical advancements. These days their methods are getting closer and closer to physiotherapy. But they still believe in the manipulation of the spine, which can obviously do more harm than good.

Also, have you ever noticed how the people who go to chiropractors never get cured? They end up going back for "adjustments" for the rest of their lives. So it's not just quackery, it's a cash grab.


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