Subject: a date to remember....

Let us be heard !!!

Not One Damn Dime Day - Jan 20, 2005 Not One Damn Dime Day - Jan 20, 2005

Mark your calendars today!

Since our religious leaders will not speak out against the war in Iraq,
since our political leaders don't have the moral courage to oppose it, Inauguration Day, Thursday, January 20th, 2005 is "Not One Damn Dime Day" in America.

On "Not One Damn Dime Day" those who oppose what is happening in our name in Iraq can speak up with a 24-hour national boycott of all form of consumer spending.

During "Not One! Damn Dime Day" please don't spend money. Not one damn dime for gasoline. Not one damn dime for necessities or for impulse
purchases. Not one damn dime for nothing for 24 hours.

On "Not One Damn Dime Day," please boycott Wal-Mart, Kmart, Target... Please don't go to the mall or the local convenience store. Please don't
buy any fast food (or any groceries at all for that matter). For 24
hours, please do what you can to shut the retail economy down.

The object is simple. Remind the people in power that the war in Iraq is immoral and illegal; that they are responsible for starting it and that it is their responsibility to stop it.

"Not One Damn Dime Day" is to remind them, too, that they work for the people of the United States of America, not for the international corporations and K Street lobbyists who represent the corporations and funnel cash into American politics.

"Not One Damn Dime Day" is about supporting the troops. The politicians put the troops in harm's way. Now 1,200 brave young Americans and (some estimate) 100,000 Iraqis have died. The politicians owe our troops a plan - a way to come home.

There's no rally to attend. No marching to do. No left or right wing agenda to rant about. On "Not One Damn Dime Day" you take action by
doing nothing. You open your mouth by keeping your wallet closed. For 24 hours, nothing gets spent, not one damn dime, to remind our religious leaders and our politicians of their moral responsibility to end the war in Iraq and give America back to the people.

Please share this idea with as many people as possible.

"Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed." President Dwight D. Eisenhower, April 16, 1953

Whaddya think- yay or nay?

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I can do that... I have no target or walmart anywhere near me....

Kmart is another problem.. Thats across the street....i can buy my fruit rollups elsewhere tha day!

Give me a break... why doesn't everyone donate $0.10 to a charity or even better, the armed forces. Seems more productive to me.

What does not getting anything from the local privately owned cornerstore have to do with the war in Iraq. Gas, I can understand on some level. But a private business owner. what's that got to do with anything?

Also, the thing about gas is, you'll have to buy it eventually. If no one buys gas on the 20th, it just means that many more will be at the pumps on the 21st.

Let's cripple our own economy for the sake of making some sort of misguided point. Cutting off your nose to spite your face.

Seriously, what does this have to do with Iraq? Perhaps we should boycott public transportation? That'll show the tobacco industry!

You know what I can't stand? This "Oh, we're against the war but we support the troops!". Because troops you can torture people, commit war crimes, drop bombs and fire off heavy calibre machine guns cos your nice people - we support you. But war, ugh that's horrible, we're so against that! People might get hurt!

So for that reason alone, the people who came up with this pathetic idea (probably just to get attention for themselves) should be locked in a very deep basement so we never have to hear from them again.

And just for the record I don't support the war, the troops or idiotic protests like this.

Do you think there's anywhere that I can find "Support Our War" and "No More Troops" bumper stickers?

It's more like we won't spit on you and call you a child-killer when you come home. Settle down, Beavis.

And what andyfest (I think) said about one-day consumption protests. You wanna make the oil companies listen? Sell your car!

How can you not support your own countrymen at war? That's the craziest thing I've ever read. These kids are putting their life on the line everyday.

That post makes me violent... I'll be sure to keep this from my nephew when I talk to him next as he recoups from an injury sustained while fighting in both Afghanistan and Iraq.

Yeah, this is a dumb statement....

Basically, like millions of people...

I dont support the war. I dont think wee should still be there...We got rid of Saddam... great....i personallylly dont think we should be there anymore...

but we are there.....Americans among other countries.....And i would like them to be safe, even if i dont agree with it.....I want them all to come back in one piece....


So yes, you can be against the war, but support the troops!

This, I agree with wholeheartedly. I was for the war at first, then against it when we found that the reason we went to war in the first place was based on wrong information. And all this talk of us now eyeing Iran for a strike sooner than later makes my stomach turn.

I didn't say I was against the troops. All I said was I don't support them. As far as I am concerned what they are doing is wrong and therefore I cannot possibly support them.

Oh and one more thing, one of the reason I was against the war is that I didn't want ANYONE to die.

I think we can all agree on this.

So you dont support the troops...Do you think any single one of em were gung-ho to be sent over there and kill others with the possibility of being killed as well?

These men and women joined the armed forces to protect our country, proabbly with the hopes of never being put in the posistion of actually having to defend us....

It was the governemnts decision, not the troops....They are doing their jobs....no matter how unfortunate it was, is, and has become....


so , if a troop dies..... who cares???

is that what you're saying? tell me im wrong please. tell me, im mis-interpreting what youre saying. I relaly hope I am...

I don't see anything wrong with that. I support the troops in the sense that I think it's great that they're willing to sacrifice themselves to defend my country. However, they don't pick their wars. It's not their fault that they were sent to Iraq, so I can support their original ideology of defending the country with their lives, but can be against the Iraq war itself because I don't believe they were sent to Iraq to defend us from an imminent threat.

Troops have no politics... they are there to do a job. And they are braver than I could ever hope to be.

Perfectly stated.

Like they did to the Rooster.

While many people serving in the armed forces never really wanted to serve abroad, there are clearly a lot of individuals in the armed forces who support the Bush mentality and were overjoyed to go fight the arabs.
I live reasonably close to Offut Airbase a.k.a. Strategic Command, a.k.a. SAC and read enlisted people's responses on local message boards all the time. Several of these people call the Iraqi's "ragheads" and basically believe we should bomb the hell out of that place and kill them all. They rarely buy into the argument that most insurgents are Iraqis rather than foreigners and defended the shooting of unarmed injured insurgents.

I know there is a growing number of armed service personnel who are against the war, but in general its naive to say that the troops have no politics, especially when they are seen as a clear positive for the Republican party and tend to be ardent supporters and voters.

I don't wish that any of these people die over in Iraq or Afghanistan, even the overt racist wackos. I tend to believe that we should support the troops by either demanding their swift return or ensuring the Bush Administration gets them the best equipment possible to do their job and formulates the right policies after admitting their mistakes.

I realize that this has little to do with the original post, but I didn't feel the need to comment on such an asanine protest idea.
p.s. I love Richard Lugar for actually commenting on how terrible an idea permanent detention for suspected terrorists is.

Troops have no politics? Troops are citizens, it's their duty to have politics as much as it is to follow orders. I think the politics of the Isreali refusniks have had a real and meaningful impact, for just one obvious example.

Would you like the army to throw their enemies birthday parites? C'mon... these guys are trained to kill... of course, they're going to be gung ho about it. That's their job... that's the face that wants them dead... that's the man who's trying to take you away from your family. Not saying it's ideal... but that's the truth of it.

Do you think a kid on the front line gives a shit about politics when he's getting rockets fired at him? The vast majorty of our soldiers back Bush. He's the man putting food on their tables.

Of course soldiers care about politics... but what I'm saying is that when they're seeing action, that's the farthest thing from top of mind. Orders, orders, orders.

There's quite a difference between showing little emotion for shooting a man in battle and being gung-ho about going over to a country to shoot some arabs. There are people in the armed services who have a Douglas MacArthur/Barry Goldwater mentality who think we should pick a fight with Iran and Syria, and think that killing any arab means your killing a terrorists.