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I've been wondering how they balance the "cheap labor = $$" side with the "open borders = turrists will win" side. Because they certainly cater to both. I'll just wait for them to tell me, I guess.


I know you aren't advocating this stance, but the "Open Borders is an Invitation to Terrorists" line is bullshit. I don't see anyone in a hurry to build a wall along the northern border, which last I remember was the longest unprotected border in the world. If you can sneak across through the Southwestern US, I really doubt the motion lights are gonna wake up the neighbors in Montana or North Dakota.

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the question is what is congress actually going to do? it appears that, like always, they'll probably come up with a bullshit plan and this will just be tossed around in the election cycles, but without a real plan to start to fix this mess.
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Two best things to come from this thread --

harry Wrote:
Cervical-of-the-fittest


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Open borders = tourists will win
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Some pakistani cohorts here tell tales of procuring business deals with underage hookers as the NORM. Like buying box before a meeting.


np: Hawksley Workman - "No Beginning, No End"

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Fu Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I've been wondering how they balance the "cheap labor = $$" side with the "open borders = turrists will win" side. Because they certainly cater to both. I'll just wait for them to tell me, I guess.


I know you aren't advocating this stance, but the "Open Borders is an Invitation to Terrorists" line is bullshit. I don't see anyone in a hurry to build a wall along the northern border, which last I remember was the longest unprotected border in the world. If you can sneak across through the Southwestern US, I really doubt the motion lights are gonna wake up the neighbors in Montana or North Dakota.


I know. But the people who believe Bush keeps america safer from terrorism are the same who believe open borders (specially ones where brown people can sneak over) are a national threat. Makes me ill.

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I know. But the people who believe Bush keeps america safer from terrorism are the same who believe open borders (specially ones where brown people can sneak over) are a national threat. Makes me ill.


From my own experience, the anti-immigrant/open borders stance has been pretty party neutral. People, not politicians, mind you.

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Fu Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I know. But the people who believe Bush keeps america safer from terrorism are the same who believe open borders (specially ones where brown people can sneak over) are a national threat. Makes me ill.


From my own experience, the anti-immigrant/open borders stance has been pretty party neutral. People, not politicians, mind you.


I guess that people just don't know what to make of it. Understandably.

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People, not politicians, mind you.


I feel like this is the case with a lot of things.
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