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If "curing" someone of liking something by exposing them to indie approved artists isn't hipster backlash, then I don't know what is.

Especially when you consider 2nd tier artists like Patty Griffin and Barbara Manning don't even deserve to floss with one of Joplin's lengthy pubes.


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If "curing" someone of liking something by exposing them to indie approved artists isn't hipster backlash, then I don't know what is.

Especially when you consider 2nd tier artists like Patty Griffin and Barbara Manning don't even deserve to floss with one of Joplin's lengthy pubes.


most of the people here don't know who Patty Griffin is, but i'll tell you, I opened up for her in concert, and she's a great performer and a great writer.

You can't really compare the two, one's a folkie and the other's a rocker, and why would you want to compare them anyways, or diss one for the other?

Pointless.

Living with Ghosts is a great place to start with Patty Griffin.

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If "curing" someone of liking something by exposing them to indie approved artists isn't hipster backlash, then I don't know what is.

Especially when you consider 2nd tier artists like Patty Griffin and Barbara Manning don't even deserve to floss with one of Joplin's lengthy pubes.


Stick Pussy will be recording "Joplin's Lengthy Pubes" for the debut (The Camel's Toe Phallusy).


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So, I have been getting together tunes for Paper.

Paper, YSI is coming soon . . .

I really haven't listened to it for years. I remember why. It's okay and the incredible things that woman could do with her voice are astounding. Yet, I need small doses. Very small. I think it'll go back on the shelf for AWHILE.


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before there was patti...before there was chrissie...there was JANIS.
she rocked harder than most men of any time and her stuff just kicks ass up and down the street.

janis was balls to the wall and not of the "i want jackson browne and the eagles to fuck me" folk singing genre that was so popular then. she was a real role model for bad girls everywhere. i adore her.

it's pretty typical that a lot of people can't handle her. like they can't handle patti smith and s-k and bikini kill and the deal girls.

patty griffin? never heard anything by her and while she may be talented (yesphilyouaremymaster) i'm sure it's an apple/oranges thing. very few female singers can stand next to janis.


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"They like blahblahblah, they really should listen to blahblahblah instead, because they are superior (that is, to anyone with good taste." You people have no souls; Janis was and always will be the shit.

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it's pretty typical that a lot of people can't handle her. like they can't handle patti smith and s-k and bikini kill and the deal girls.


Not sure what you mean by "can't handle" but if you mean they all have annoying, howly, screeching, overblown, way too self-serious blues-as-tough-girl-punk voices, I'm guilty as charged.


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I fully admit to not dipping that far into Ms. Janis. I also full admitting to fully hating "Mercedes Benz", "Piece of My Heart", "Cry Baby", "Me & Bobby McGee" enough to not want to venture any further in.


Agreed.

It's not that she's uncool to me ... on the contrary. I, like others here, do not like her based solely on her own merits. Don't play the "hipster snob backlash" card so quickly. Some people genuinely don't like her.


I was maybe to subtlely ribbing billy g with the first half of my comment. He's about the last person I'd accuse of playing any hipster cards.

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Paper--PM with YSI has been sent!


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janis was balls to the wall and not of the "i want jackson browne and the eagles to fuck me" folk singing genre that was so popular then. she was a real role model for bad girls everywhere.


hey joni was a pretty good model for independent womanhood on her own terms...

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I didn't know liking Janis Joplin wasn't cool. While I'm not a fan of her version of Bobby McGee anymore, I think the singing on Piece of My Heart is stellar and I usually listen to it when it comes on the radio.

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worst cover ever... Faith Hill's Piece of My Heart.

That was the point at which I was like...

Holy Shit. She doesn't get it. She doesn't understand a single word she's singing. And her producer and her record label don't know. And the people buying this shit haven't got a clue.

It was a staggering thought that there were millions of pop country fans out there who didn't understand that Piece of my Heart isn't a nice pretty love song.

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doesn't get it...doesn't understand a single word...producer and...record label don't know. And the people buying this shit haven't got a clue.


I think this every time I hear Rod Stewart's versions of "Downtown Train" or "Broken Arrow" and everytime I hear a "cute" version of "Mack The Knife." Or people slow dancing to Metallica's "One." Or The Cure's "How Beautiful You Are." Even on the sugar-pop end, people who think Howie Day's "Perfect Time Of Day" is a love song. Death, people, it's about death.


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harry Wrote:
ayah Wrote:
janis was balls to the wall and not of the "i want jackson browne and the eagles to fuck me" folk singing genre that was so popular then. she was a real role model for bad girls everywhere.


hey joni was a pretty good model for independent womanhood on her own terms...


yes. she's always had the air of cool bohemian independence.
love her stufff. blue, in particular.


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and everytime I hear a "cute" version of "Mack The Knife."


Which is why the Psychedelic Furs version is the definitive modern interpretation.


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