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This show is the worst thing I have ever seen, yet somehow I feel compelled to watch it every time it is on. Most of these kids need a serious kick in the ass, and the parents a lesson in what being a fucking human being is about. These people spend more on a birthday party than the average American HOUSE is worth:

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MTV's 'Super Sweet 16' Gives a Sour Pleasure
By LOLA OGUNNAIKE
Published: April 26, 2006
Sophie Mitchell, a high school senior in Jupiter, Fla., had no intentions of turning 16 quietly. She wanted that birthday to be an epic event — no cake-and-ice-cream social or pajama-and-pizza sleepover would do. No, her party would be a ridiculously lavish, invitation-only affair, inspired by the film "Moulin Rouge." There would be can-can dancers, a fleet of stretch limousines for friends and family and a $1,500 cake.

"I wanted something with a lot of substance," said Sophie, now 17, without a hint of irony, "not just a regular party but pure entertainment for everyone."

Sophie is just one of the dozens of privileged kids who have had their coming-of-age extravaganzas captured on MTV's hit series "My Super Sweet 16" (Wednesdays at 10 p.m., Eastern and Pacific times; 9, Central Time). The show, in its third season, follows teenagers as they painstakingly plan their elaborate celebrations (which can cost as much as $200,000), argue over the details with their parents, fret over guest lists and shop for their first cars. There are tears and tantrums and nouveau-riche displays of conspicuous consumption. Marissa, a daddy's girl from Arizona, dyes her two poodles pink, so they'll match her dress. Her party was the show's season opener.

"It's like Jerry Springer for rich kids," said Zena Burns, entertainment director at Teen People magazine. Her readers can't get enough of the show, she said.

"You're either the type of kid that aspires to have that over-the-top party, or you're the type of kid that finds that absolutely repellent, but you still can't stop watching," said Ms. Burns, a fan of the series. "And I have just as many adult friends who watch it and do the water cooler recap the next day."

Predictably, the show has its share of critics. "Their blingy flings are not celebrations of accomplishment; they're celebrations of self," Ana Marie Cox, a Time magazine columnist, wrote in this week's issue. "What used to mark the end of childhood now seems only an excuse to prolong the whiny, self-centered greediness that gives infantile a bad name." Ms. Cox compared watching the show to eating an entire sheet cake, "wax decorative candles and all."

The show follows a simple but wildly successful formula: (1) kid makes a series of high-priced demands (a fireworks display, a helicopter ride, perhaps a harem of belly dancers); (2) parents capitulate and cough up the cash; (3) kid gleefully humiliates the uninvited; (4) something goes awry; (5) kid has a meltdown and repeatedly refers to self in the third person; (6) party miraculously comes together, and kid is presented with an automobile before his salivating, less fortunate peers. In Marissa's case, her father, who owns three auto dealerships, presented her with two cars: a red convertible for the weekend and a sturdy S.U.V. for the week.

Nina Diaz, the show's creator, said that in addition to receiving submissions, she worked with a casting team of five who scoured the country talking with party planners, florists and catering-hall owners, in search of the type of teenagers who make for great television. Each season about 200 are interviewed, but only 8 or 9 make the cut, Ms. Diaz said.

"We're looking for the parties to be over the top, and we're looking for originality," she explained. "We're looking for personality, how they visualize their grand entrance, how they're going through the process of inviting people."

While Ms. Mitchell's party was organized in four weeks, other teenagers have dedicated nearly a year to ensuring that their big one-six will be memorable. Aaron Reid, son of the music mogul L. A. Reid, took five months to plan his party. He had just moved to New York from Atlanta and was eager to make a name for himself at his new prep school, to establish himself as more than L. A. Reid's son. His invitation was an MP3 player. At his party, held at Jay-Z's 40/40 club last November, the producer Jermaine Dupri was the D.J., the rapper Kanye West performed, and Diddy, Aaron's godfather, made an appearance. Poppa Reid clearly pulled some strings.

"Everybody else spent hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I didn't spend anything," Mr. Reid said proudly. "I got my friend's club. I got my friend to perform and I got my friend to D.J."

"There's absolutely no way that I would ever spend that type of money," he continued. "I think it's over the top and sickening and a real poor representation of wealth."

Still, Dr. Srinivasa Rao Kothapalli, a prominent cardiologist in Beaumont, Tex., is more than willing to relinquish his checkbook. His daughter Priya turned 16 earlier this month, and she is in the throes of planning a joint birthday-graduation party with her elder sister, Divya, 18. "If you can afford to have a grand celebration, then why not," said Dr. Kothapalli, who immigrated to the United States from India in the mid-1980's. "It's the American way. You work hard and you play hard."

Born with silver ladles in their mouths, his daughters have certainly mastered the latter. Their Bollywood-themed party for 500 guests will be held in the family's backyard — all 4½ acres, behind the 10,000-square-foot house. The Format, their favorite band, will perform. And they will make their grand entrance on litters, during an elaborate procession led by elephants. The sisters, who plan to perform a choreographed routine at their to-do next month, are also taking dance lessons, and they've enlisted the help of a trainer.

"We both want to lose three pounds," said Priya, who received a Mercedes convertible and an assortment of diamond jewelry for her birthday. Her sister's graduation gift package included a Bentley, diamonds and two homes in India.

"I was really surprised," Divya said, "because I was only expecting a Bentley and one house."

Just last month they gave a preparty where invitations to their coming event were handed out by body builders whom Priya ordered not to smile. "Assistants are not supposed to smile," she explained.

Over the years, the sisters' ostentatiousness has earned them enemies. "Some people give us dirty looks and mock us," Divya said. "They're just jealous." MTV cameras following the pair around have not made things easier. "Sometimes people are fake nice because they want to be invited to our party; it's so annoying," she said.

Priya added, "It's pathetic when people suck up." Still, dealing with sycophantic classmates and a bit of teasing is a small price to pay for the spotlight. "We both love attention—that's one of our main motives for having the party," Divya said. "The more attention the better."

Ms. Burns was not surprised. "Given the advent of the Internet and reality television, a lot of kids think that fame is a realistic goal," she said. "What better way to be famous in your own world than throw the party of the year?"

Appearing on the series has meant instant pseudocelebrity for many of the teenagers. They've been asked to sign autographs and pose for photos. None of those interviewed seemed to mind the newfound attention, though not all of it has been positive. After her episode was shown last season, Sophie, the Florida teenager, a high-strung diva given to pronouncements like "the moral of this story is I'm always right," received tons of hate e-mail.

"At first I was reading it all, but then I had to stop because I was punishing myself," she said. Sophie's mother, Dale, a veterinarian, was quick to defend her daughter, blaming editing for making her look like an ungrateful monster. "My daughter and I have an adoring relationship; we're best friends," she said, "but that's not interesting to people. People want the guts and the juicy stuff."

Sophie was just as quick to defend her mother's decision to spend $180,000 for her party. "Unless they were crazy or hated their child, any parent who was financially able would do it," she said.

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yeah this show is maddening

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I have posted about this show before. I watch it and my jaw stays constantly dropped. I remember a dad at the end saying one time, "all in all, including the range rover, this part cost me about 300,000 dollars. But, it's my daughter, so it was worth it". I just can't believe people spend that much money.

Although talking to my dad, he said that someone who is a billionaire, 200,000 is like 200 bucks for a millionaire. It puts things in perspective I guess. Not a justification but my god...


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I actually enjoy the fact that a bunch of mostly nouveau riche Yuppies from the 80's have to spend a crap ton on a party for their teenagers.
The only thing that bothers me is that most of these kids have little to no appreciation for the party and they tend to throw tacky and lame parties for the cash they are throwing down.
I think this show is better then Punk'd or Yo Mama.

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they should also do a show about the kids planning their high school shooting sprees.


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I don't even know 500 people to invite to a party.

So, these kids with a ton of money, what do you think their lives are like behind the scenes? When I was a kid, my parents and I used to go fishing, go for drives along Lake Shore Drive, see movies, shit like that. I had a good time doing that and I really treasure those memories. Do rich kids do that times a hundred ("hey, let's fly to hawaii for the weekend!") and really appreciate their parents or do they just expect it and want more? I wonder. I don't know of any rich people that I can ask...

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i'm not sure if i should post something negative about this (in keeping with my new message board theme) but this is exactly the sort of thing i would love to hate on without end. does anybody watch this for lighthearted chuckles though?

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i'm not sure if i should post something negative about this (in keeping with my new message board theme) but this is exactly the sort of thing i would love to hate on without end. does anybody watch this for lighthearted chuckles though?


I know you're dying to, so go ahead. ;)


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The Sophia episode was classic.


Yo' Momma is the worst show on TV. Ugh.

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samsãrafour Wrote:
i'm not sure if i should post something negative about this (in keeping with my new message board theme) but this is exactly the sort of thing i would love to hate on without end. does anybody watch this for lighthearted chuckles though?


That's EXACTLY why I watch it. It's a train wreck to watch these fucking people get pissed when they get the C class instead of the E class Mercedes. And Cee-Lo's daughter saying shit like "If I can't be lowered from the helicopter into the crowd, I ain't even want the helicopter"

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^^ :lol:

actually, nevermind. what i had to say...the lol is much worthier and less whiny.

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Speaking of complete crap, anybody been catching 8th and Ocean?

Good lord. Let's watch beautiful young people be vapid and moronic in the fucking modeling industry. Great role models for young teen girls to watch.


I love it. Britt may be the hottest girl on TV right now.

Vinci gets my vote for the dude who most deserves a beat down on TV.


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Speaking of complete crap, anybody been catching 8th and Ocean?

Good lord. Let's watch beautiful young people be vapid and moronic in the fucking modeling industry. Great role models for young teen girls to watch.


I love it. Britt may be the hottest girl on TV right now.

Vinci gets my vote for the dude who most deserves a beat down on TV.


My god, what have I become.


I watched one episode and that was enough. It annoyed me more than amuse me to continue watching it.


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^^ :lol:

actually, nevermind. what i had to say...the lol is much worthier and less whiny.


When I visited Vanderbilt, I thought the same thing as your original whiny post. Nice campus and town but when I went to a couple of the Vandy bars, the intellectuals and stuck up brats made we want to burn the campus to the ground.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
Speaking of complete crap, anybody been catching 8th and Ocean?

Good lord. Let's watch beautiful young people be vapid and moronic in the fucking modeling industry. Great role models for young teen girls to watch.


I love it. Britt may be the hottest girl on TV right now.

Vinci gets my vote for the dude who most deserves a beat down on TV.


My god, what have I become.


Derris, I watch this show just for the laugh out loud factor. Yes, Britt is quite beautiful, and I also concur that Vinci should get a beatdown. Teddy is cute, but a dumb sonofabitch.

Christ, I watched the Real World this morning while eating my brekkie... can that damn anorexic make it through ONE episode without bursting into tears?


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Rick Derris Wrote:
Speaking of complete crap, anybody been catching 8th and Ocean?

Good lord. Let's watch beautiful young people be vapid and moronic in the fucking modeling industry. Great role models for young teen girls to watch.


I love it. Britt may be the hottest girl on TV right now.

Vinci gets my vote for the dude who most deserves a beat down on TV.


My god, what have I become.


Derris, I watch this show just for the laugh out loud factor. Yes, Britt is quite beautiful, and I also concur that Vinci should get a beatdown. Teddy is cute, but a dumb sonofabitch.

Christ, I watched the Real World this morning while eating my brekkie... can that damn anorexic make it through ONE episode without bursting into tears?


Best line on that show in YEARS is when the one dude, drunk as shit is like "This bitch here, is a fucking LESBIAN." I think that is the Realest moment I have seen on this show. SOmething about the way he said it just cracks me up.

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Christ, I watched the Real World this morning while eating my brekkie... can that damn anorexic make it through ONE episode without bursting into tears?


You gotta admit though, this season is quite entertaining.


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I haven't watched a moment of this season of Real World. I'm sure I'll be alone one weekend and watch the complete season marathon.

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Do rich kids do that times a hundred ("hey, let's fly to hawaii for the weekend!") and really appreciate their parents or do they just expect it and want more? I wonder. I don't know of any rich people that I can ask...


I know a few teenagers whose parents are millionaires, but they aren't as gluttonous as most of those families on TV. Sure, they'll take a few trips to Hawaii a year or buy some fancy cars, but they at least have some sort of restraint when it comes to things like birthday parties.

Most of the kids seem to appreciate the things their parents do for them, but my observations don't exactly quality as a scientific poll so I can't figure out if that's what most wealthy families are like.


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dont watch real world, but have seen this super sweet 16. it hideous but I cannot look away.

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Man, if someone would do a reality show that combined Super Sweet 16 with Eli Roth's Hostel, I would tune in religiously.


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Speaking of complete crap, anybody been catching 8th and Ocean?

Good lord. Let's watch beautiful young people be vapid and moronic in the fucking modeling industry. Great role models for young teen girls to watch.


I love it. Britt may be the hottest girl on TV right now.

Vinci gets my vote for the dude who most deserves a beat down on TV.


My god, what have I become.



I have.

I've never seen a show with so many long awkward silent pauses in my life!

If a drinking game would derive from it, lot's of alcohol related deaths would occur.

It's one of the worst scripted reality tv series outthere.

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I don't even know 500 people to invite to a party.

So, these kids with a ton of money, what do you think their lives are like behind the scenes? When I was a kid, my parents and I used to go fishing, go for drives along Lake Shore Drive, see movies, shit like that. I had a good time doing that and I really treasure those memories. Do rich kids do that times a hundred ("hey, let's fly to hawaii for the weekend!") and really appreciate their parents or do they just expect it and want more? I wonder. I don't know of any rich people that I can ask...


Yep, basically.
I used to go with my roommate to St. Martin around Christmas, and at the blackjack tables would be these fabulously wealth kids from New Jersey or somesuch, saying things like, "My family comes here every year for Christmas, dad rents a 157ft. Yacht and we sail out of NYC..."
That's family time, it just happens to be on a four million dollar boat. Nice gig if you can get it. Anyone recall that documentary about rich kids on HBO? The guy who's hier to the A&P fortune made it, I think.

No show makes me want to puke more than this 16 thing, tho.

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it's almost as dumb as that new show called "Yo Momma", where a bunch of ignorant kids, usually black or hispanic, crack on eachother for a half hour.

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