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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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Wait, is this another one of those threads where everybody goes soft and Radcliffe has to come in and explain that some music is just shitty?


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And BillyG is aces. Trust me Haqqer.

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I'm not picking a fight! (except with billy g!) Jazz was once "pop music." Now, the only jazz you'll hear apart from NPR, an art gallery, or your living room, is smooth jazz. It would be way less profitable to throw an actual jazz festival with headliners that actually play jazz than it is to throw a "jazz" festival, encompassing anybody who noodles or includes a saxophone solo.

i'm more saying that saying "people don't like jazz anymore" is so blanketed its sure to get someone stammering, "but, but i like jazz! that's so untrue haq! i'm going to cut you!"

that being said, i like jazz.


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Wait, is this another one of those threads where everybody goes soft and Radcliffe has to come in and explain that some music is just shitty?


Probably.

But what the fuck does he know? He's the stodgy old version of the indie kid in the cardigan, he just has JAIL4LIFE tattooed on his knuckles.

(Nothing against Uncle Monger, mind you)

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Last time I checked Herbie Hancock, Rebirth, Preservation Jazz Hall, Eddie Palmeri, Elis Marsalis, and Dirty Dozen were all jazz bands and they're all playing this year. And that's only the jazz "headliners".

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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You have to understand, Phil, that people don't like jazz anymore.


HAHA.

Reminds me of this quote from "24 Hour Party People":

"Jazz is the last refuge of the untalented. Jazz musicians enjoy themselves more than anyone listening to them does."



I like Jazz but I don't really like seeing it live so much unless you've got some of that good black tar smack.


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Last time I checked Herbie Hancock, Rebirth, Preservation Jazz Hall, Eddie Palmeri, Elis Marsalis, and Dirty Dozen were all jazz bands and they're all playing this year. And that's only the jazz "headliners".


But do you disagree that this show would make much, much less money without DMB, Springsteen, and Buffet?


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he just has JAIL4LIFE tattooed on his knuckles.

i thought it was FALLOUTBOY


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HaqDiesel Wrote:
oldbullee Wrote:
Last time I checked Herbie Hancock, Rebirth, Preservation Jazz Hall, Eddie Palmeri, Elis Marsalis, and Dirty Dozen were all jazz bands and they're all playing this year. And that's only the jazz "headliners".


But do you disagree that this show would make much, much less money without DMB, Springsteen, and Buffet?

we are in complete agreement. those dudes pay the light bill so the jazz folks can have a venue to play.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


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katie, a princess Wrote:
Senator Laycock LooGAR Wrote:
he just has JAIL4LIFE tattooed on his knuckles.

i thought it was FALLOUTBOY


Either way, its better than Monty's: GAPNANAL

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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How many freaking knuckles does this man have? (Rads, I mean)

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I think I'd rather be a 60+ year old Buffett than a 20 something indie rock dude.


I don't know if you just feel generally resentful of the stereotype that people over ~35 can't like good music or what, but with your "20 something indie rock dudes don't get much out of life" and your hatred of messenger bags, you're carrying around the kind of silly, unfair presumptions that people typically harbour about people they've never met.


You're reading too much into that...what I'm really trying to say is Buffett makes the short list of people whose lives I envy. Nothing wrong with indie rock stars, but none of them come close to making that short list. To the extent the message came out stronger than that, just consider it a preemptive strike against expected indie backlash.

I'm not really sure about the economics of having springsteen, buffett, dmb there? Sure, their stages are packed and they must be selling some tix based on them alone but they are likely also getting paid alot more than the average artist there. At ticket prices of $40-50'ish/day, its a bargin. I'd imagine a lot of folks go regardless of who is on the lineup. I've been five times and I can't recall any one artist ever being a major reason I went. Personally though I like it when a band like DMB plays...draws crowds to the main stage and makes the stage I want to be at less crowded and more comfortable.


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I think I'd rather be a 60+ year old Buffett than a 20 something indie rock dude.

I saw a bunch of these 60+ year old Buffet fans on the news a couple weeks back Buffet came through town. Believe me, you don't want to be these people. These people seem not to be fans of music but fans of the scene that surrounds a Buffet show. Same can be said for the Dead, Phish, and others - the music really seems to play second-fiddle to the gathering.

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billy g Wrote:
I think I'd rather be a 60+ year old Buffett than a 20 something indie rock dude.

I saw a bunch of these 60+ year old Buffet fans on the news a couple weeks back Buffet came through town. Believe me, you don't want to be these people. These people seem not to be fans of music but fans of the scene that surrounds a Buffet show. Same can be said for the Dead, Phish, and others - the music really seems to play second-fiddle to the gathering.


Oh I don't want to be a 60 year old buffett fan...I want to be a 60 year old buffett...dude lives a pretty charmed life.


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This thread reminds me of something I was thinking last night.

Does Bruce really need to "save" the country with every album that he does these days?

I am a HUGE Bruce fan.


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I think I'd rather be a 60+ year old Buffett than a 20 something indie rock dude.

I saw a bunch of these 60+ year old Buffet fans on the news a couple weeks back Buffet came through town. Believe me, you don't want to be these people. These people seem not to be fans of music but fans of the scene that surrounds a Buffet show. Same can be said for the Dead, Phish, and others - the music really seems to play second-fiddle to the gathering.


Oh I don't want to be a 60 year old buffett fan...I want to be a 60 year old buffett...dude lives a pretty charmed life.

Dammit, you're right. I misread. Charmed, but as an "artist," is it very fulfilling to know that most of the people at your shows aren't really there to hear your music but simply to mingle? Or is applying "artist" to Jimmy Buffet really stretching the definition of the word?

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I think I'd rather be a 60+ year old Buffett than a 20 something indie rock dude.

I saw a bunch of these 60+ year old Buffet fans on the news a couple weeks back Buffet came through town. Believe me, you don't want to be these people. These people seem not to be fans of music but fans of the scene that surrounds a Buffet show. Same can be said for the Dead, Phish, and others - the music really seems to play second-fiddle to the gathering.


Oh I don't want to be a 60 year old buffett fan...I want to be a 60 year old buffett...dude lives a pretty charmed life.

Dammit, you're right. I misread. Charmed, but as an "artist," is it very fulfilling to know that most of the people at your shows aren't really there to hear your music but simply to mingle? Or is applying "artist" to Jimmy Buffet really stretching the definition of the word?


Not a stretch at all. He has an intreresting take on some things. And a lot of those people DO like the music, its just the one night a year they get to leave the kids with the baby sitter, guzzle Tequila out of the bottle, dress up like a Hawaiian clown, and grope the wife in public.

Its called release.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Laycock LooGAR Wrote:
he just has JAIL4LIFE tattooed on his knuckles.


How many freaking knuckles does this man have?

I have the
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Busty Rhodes Wrote:
This thread reminds me of something I was thinking last night.

Does Bruce really need to "save" the country with every album that he does these days?

I am a HUGE Bruce fan.


I think the new record is a bit of damage control - letting the air out of that balloon.

Sure, there's subtext there, but just because of what he's been doing lately. Now to come out of the box with an e-street set and not wait for a national disaster for inspiration.

Still ain't jazz.


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And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
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np: Old '97s - 'King of All the World"

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Rick Derris Wrote:

I like Jazz but I don't really like seeing it live so much unless you've got some of that good black tar smack.



<=== polar opposite.

I'd much rather see jazz created live. Give me a trio or quartet with chops, where each player will jump in fearlessly and improv against the others--nothing like it.


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And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
Down to rock bottom again
Just a few friends, just a few friends



Nice Bobbo. Love that song.

Here's my favorite bit from my favorite song of his:


Now he lives in the islands, fishes the pilin’s
And drinks his green label each day
Writing his memoirs, losin’ his hearin’
But he don’t care what most people say

Through eighty-six years of perpetual motion
If he likes you he’ll smile and he’ll say
Jimmy, some of it’s magic, some of it’s tragic
But I had a good life all the way


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And I have been drunk now for over two weeks
I passed out and I rallied and I sprung a few leaks
But I got stop wishin', got to go fishin'
Down to rock bottom again
Just a few friends, just a few friends


Nice Bobbo. Love that song.


With the Big 4-0 barreling down on me in just a few more months, this song has been more and more top of mind than ever. I almost feel like I'm about to die...well, at least my youth. I DON'T WANNA BE 40!!!

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