48 writers voted for Manning and one voted for Vick for MVP?

that one writer probably doesn't follow football and just voted based on his favorite commercials.

It's a joke Vick would get a vote over Culpepper and McNabb after the season he's had.

McNabb has all the good commercials. Actually his mom does.

some of vicks more impressive stats

14 TD's 12 INT's 16 fumbles (in 15 games!)

Speaking of jokes, can the media kiss Brett Favre's ass any more? The guy has a terrible game last night (4 INT), including that throw beyond the line of scrimmage when he could've ran for the first down, yet the media's love affair with this guy never ends. It makes me nauseus to hear some of the broadcasters talk about this guy like he's God.

If he had the opportunity, I'll wager Stephen A. Jackson's the mystery voter.


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I think you mean Stephen A Smith. And yes, I can't stand him.

that play was embaressing. he was like four yards past the line.
the one thing a veteran QB is supposed to have is smarts, he didn't even have that last night.

Oh yeah and he also won their division and got a first round bye with ZERO production from his recievers. Peerless Price is the worst #1 receiver in football.

Why is this so insane? Granted Manning deserves it but who is more valuable to their team? I think it's obivious that Vick is. They are 11-5 this year with him. He only played one series in 2 of those losses.

Last year they are 5-11 without him. They went 3-1 when he came back late in the year.

Manning has had THE best season a QB could ever have but if you put another competent qb in that offense I still think they go 9-7.

Just saying it's not outside the realm of possibility that someone thought he was more valuable to his team. (Vick I mean)

If this isn't a biased opinion, I don't know what is.

as a fan of McNabb, i've been on this side of the argument . . . and i feel you. but i'm just not buying it. I find it odd that EVERY WR that is in Mannings system is suddenly awesome. He has a very large part to do with that.

You're goddamn right. Peace up cuz A-Town's down.

Makes no difference. Peyton'll choke like he always does. If not at New England then at Pittsburgh.

if anyone beats both of those teams back-to-back then i say that they should get a pass on whatever suck-ass team the nfc puts up in the superbowl. just show an hour of commercials and let us get back to Desperate Housewives.

. . . but the Eagles are winning the super bowl.

You could say Vick is unaffected by bad receivers. His yards per rushing attempt were slightly higher than his yards per pass attempt (7.5 to 7.21) & he completes > 60%. Yes mediocre receivers figure in that but his legs are more dangerous than his arm & defences aren't gearded towards stopping a QB with legs like that. Even if he had Owens or Harrison it would still be his running ability that would be so dangerous.

I'm a huge Packer fan and I think the media ignores Favre's bad play a lot. He is the reason Green Bay lost yesterday. He was the reason they lost last year and the reason they lost two years ago. Everyone talks about what a clutch player he is but they're wrong he used to be, but now, instead of throwing touchdowns with the game's on the line he throws interceptions.

I still think he should be in the pro bowl this year though. Vick shouldn't be there much less getting votes for MVP. Gimme a break!

McNabb's rushing attempts were cut in half this year with the addition of TO, granted McNabb isn't the rusher that Vick is, but it's a very similar situation.

Manning clearly has the numbers, so he should get the award. That being said, Vick, in my opinion is getting the first real coaching in adapting to the pro game that I've seen under Mora. Reeves did nothing with him but get him hurt, I think he has acheived most of his success absed on raw talent to this point.

I think he'll be dominant in a couple of years. Manning will cough it up in one of the next two games, most likely in New England this week.

And McNabb is a better passer, but good point.

...that's because for the mid-late 90s he pretty much was God. Is it fair to still talk about him as if he's in his prime? Probably not. I have a sense, though, that when the media kisses McNabb's ass once he's past his prime you won't mind it as much. He'll have to win a Super Bowl or two first in order for that to happen, though.

jewels is saying all the right things here. Stokley's always been a number 3 receiver for some pretty crap passing schemes (2000 Ravens ring a bell?). Now, he has All Pro numbers. Who was Reggie Wayne before this year? That's mostly Manning's doing. Vick is the most gifted athlete in pro football. In a sense you can say he's the most complete player (tho I'd probably argue Culpepper). The Falcons are nothing without him, and in that sense only he's the most valuable. Possibly an SEC alum who is letting his anti-UT bias show. Is it a dick move if that's the case? Yes, but we're allowed these from time to time.

I want to see Indianapolis beat New England, and then whichever side they play in the AFC Final. Further, I want St. Louis or Minnesota to advance to Jacksonville, because I want to hear a week of hand-wringing from the typing and chattering classes about dome teams not being able to get to the big game and how, oh how, did it happen that two advanced in the same year (when only two, period, had made it, ever, before this year (Atl, '98; StL, '99)).

St. Louis made it in 2001 also.

I'm 100% down with this, and think its better than any other reason that could be espoused for not voting for Manning.

Relatedly: GAR, did you see the NY Times Sunday Magazine piece on Eli? The article made him out to be sort of a disinterested passing savant, who could just as easily be a loan officer at a bank branch or something else suitably low-profile. Very fascinating read.

Did nt see that my good man, but will look for it post-haste.