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I don't really want a YSI, but if anybody wants to share some opinions on this, I'd like to see them.


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Just saw "Heart of Gold"

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Having not listened to this, and not listened to the album that "Let's roll" is on, am I off base in thinking that Neil Young needs to get a gold star for Opportunist of the New Century?

When sentiments are runnnig high on either side, he jumps in and capitalizes on it? Just a feeling I have...not real sure if I am right or wrong, but this business and the other leave a bad taste in my mouth, because of the subject matter, but also because it seems like shooting fish in a barrel.

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Senator Smebopolis LooGAR Wrote:
Having not listened to this, and not listened to the album that "Let's roll" is on, am I off base in thinking that Neil Young needs to get a gold star for Opportunist of the New Century?

When sentiments are runnnig high on either side, he jumps in and capitalizes on it? Just a feeling I have...not real sure if I am right or wrong, but this business and the other leave a bad taste in my mouth, because of the subject matter, but also because it seems like shooting fish in a barrel.


Wow. Have we really forgotten what a protest singer is in this day and age?




I thought that if you had an acoustic guitar that it meant that you were a protest singer... well I can smile about it now but at the time it was terrible.


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Senator Smebopolis LooGAR Wrote:
Having not listened to this, and not listened to the album that "Let's roll" is on, am I off base in thinking that Neil Young needs to get a gold star for Opportunist of the New Century?

When sentiments are runnnig high on either side, he jumps in and capitalizes on it? Just a feeling I have...not real sure if I am right or wrong, but this business and the other leave a bad taste in my mouth, because of the subject matter, but also because it seems like shooting fish in a barrel.


My guess is just that he's felt obligated to do so ever since "Ohio." Might have made more sense, though, for The Pretenders to have written and performed the Kent State shootings song of record, seeing how Chrissie Hynde pretty much had to pull a slo-mo Neo to avoid jacking the number up to five.

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The Senator is wrong.


Yeah, Neil Young doesn't have to do something like this to sell records.

History has shown that he's impulsive, not an opportunist.


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If anything, Neil Young is the planet incarnate. And if the planet is living with war, Neil Young is living with war. And if war inspires him, then I say fight on.


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The Senator is wrong.


Yeah, Neil Young doesn't have to do something like this to sell records.

History has shown that he's impulsive, not an opportunist.


Neil is not only impulsive, but he pretty much aims to please himself and to hell with everyone else. That's one reason he and Dylan have been friends for years, and it's also why he would just up and leave unannounced from CSNY or Crazy Horse.

Let the record also show that Neil was a Reagan supporter throughout the 1980s.

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 Post subject: Re: Neil Young - "Living With War"
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I'm on it.


Anyone else wants a ysi, just pm me.

As for Loogs' feelings about this Neil album and the one with 'Let's Roll', I see where you're coming from, but Fu said it already. The guy is totally impulsive. I mean, he cut this album and it's in stores within, what? A month? And yeah, he sees himself as a protest singer, a commentator on the times. I read an interview with him where he said he was waiting for some twentysomething singer to come along and say something directly about all of this war business and no one did. So he felt that maybe the protest mantle still rests with the sixties generation so he went with it. Also in going with what Fu said, after Sept 11, he was somewhat supporting Bush and the Patriot Act as well, suggesting that to remain safe in the current climate, we might have to give up some freedoms for awhile. Plus that whole Reagan business as well. He's can be a bit disorganizied when it comes to politics, but he still makes a hell of a record and frankly that's all I give a shit about. He sounds pissed off and raw on this album. It's kind of messy and it shows it was cut quickly, but I think he sounds fucking great on it. I really don't care about the message myself and I didn't need America The Beautiful at the end. Kind of reminded me of 'Mother Earth' off Ragged Glory.

Anyway, if you love Neil's louder stuff, you'll probably like the album. Unless you don't like the message, then don't bother.

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And yeah, he sees himself as a protest singer, a commentator on the times. I read an interview with him where he said he was waiting for some twentysomething singer to come along and say something directly about all of this war business and no one did. So he felt that maybe the protest mantle still rests with the sixties generation so he went with it.


...and God bless him for it. It's nice to see an old heavyweight like him step into the ring. I'm happy he's still around to show us all how it's done.


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As far as my wife has always been concerned Neil has one of the worst singing voices in the history of rock. But I stay married to her for plenty of other reasons.


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3 songs in and i'm enjoying the hell out of this

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Sonically it's probably closest to the Pearl Jam collab, Mirror Ball, only with a hundred backing vocalists.


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...a hundred annoying backing vocalists, belting out some trite lyrics. There are a few bright spots, but they're scattered over 3 or 4 tracks, leaving the listener with several outright clunkers and a few "this is almost decent at times!" tracks. Newcomers should stick with his 70s material. Hardcore fans should have stopped in the mid-90s.

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I'll be one to say that the Fair Senator at least spoke his mind :edit some sort of nicety he tried to be honest or something: probably knowing some lashing to be well deserved with some (or willing)forgetfulness of the entirety of NY's career outside blurbia's continuum. :wink:

same reaction :huh: after reading this, what the hell is blurbia?


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Singing raw, underproduced "classic garage rock", topical clumsy passionate lyrics about a President who lies to take us to war, with an occasional antiquated horn, drums mixed way too high, and a huge choir of aging hippies... yeah, this is a total sell out purely looking for commercial gain.

This, to me, is brilliant. Turn it up very loud, shout out the lyrics, and get very angry at those who want to fuck up your country for their own financial gain or biblical addictions (hint: it's not Neil).

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Bright Eyes writes a better protest song these days.

'Lets Impeach The President'? That's right up there with 'Highwire' in terms of sublety...

Pretty good sounding so far though. I just dont need to be hit in the head with a hammer on these things

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Something tells me that since all the Neil Young freaks jumped to his defense, I'm not toooo far off in my assessment.

And polly, "You Ready, Let's Roll" was protesting what? Its Ok for Neil, but not Bobby Bowden?

Maybe Bloor's comments come closer to how I really feel (SHOCKER!) but the fact that in 5 years he went from using the Fligt 93 tagline to calling for Dubya's Impeachment is a little *ahem* disconcerting.

And I dare say that, outside a core group of fans and Jann Wenner, Neil and everyone else needs whatever help they can get selling rekkids.

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Something tells me that since all the Neil Young freaks jumped to his defense, I'm not toooo far off in my assessment.


Did you pass over my comments?

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harry Wrote:
Turn it up very loud, shout out the lyrics, and get very angry at those who want to fuck up your country for their own financial gain or biblical addictions (hint: it's not Neil).


that's comedy. you should do it in the mirror too, with an old paper towel roll as your mic! RISE UP!

and yeah, i'm with natural Mike on this.


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