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http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story ... 51&cc=3436

i think the truth is somewhere down the middle (as in most cases)


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I like how Wayne Rooney (11 World Cup matches, no goals BTW, world class player obviously) stamps on a guys balls and the UK press turns Ronaldo into the villian.

I'm against players crowding refs but seriously, if that happened right in front of you to one of your team are you just going to stand there and say nothing?

If Rooney has any sense he'll start behaving himself on the field instead of going out and getting sent off again.

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I can't beleve Rooney did that...it's the fucking world cup. Have some sense.

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Rooney is a 20 year old kid from Croxteth, pissed off feeling so much pressure and playing in a system, for a manager, with teammates, who didn't seem to serve him any chances. He had been injured, getting back in match shape, and other than a few runs, had pretty much not done anything in this Cup. He was a frustrated Irish kid who briefly put in a little stamp on the nuts. Red card for sure (if the official really saw it), but no great lapse of character, or FIFA conspiracy or Portugese subterfuge.

Ronaldo's problem is that he looks like a prissy little pretty boy, and then he WINKED at the sidelines after Rooney was sent off. And he already said he wanted Real Madrid... lots of reasons for the English to hate him before it all happened. As it happens, the pretty boy is probably a better player than rudeboy Rooney.

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Ha ha Rooney. This article last week cracked me up.

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Wayne Rooney is waiting for his first World Cup goal but boasts the confidence to consider one day breaking Ronaldo's goal record


And before someone defends him, I'm laughing at the press for this story more than Rooney. He was at least the most active England player, I'll give him some credit for that.

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_FgTlZcbpg&search=wayne%20rooney%20red%20card

Here you go, for me Rooney should of had a foul before anything happened. Alan Shearer cracks me up. To think that guy is supposedly going to become the england assistant manager worries me no end. You can't complain about that being a red card though but Ronaldo's actions is disgraceful.

The UK press is so funny, i read something today about Van Nistelroy. He had that training ground bust up with Ronaldo a few months back and i remember the papers interviewing anybody they could, who had a bone to pick with him and would slag the guy off. And now they are defending him and casting Ronaldo as the real villian in that bust up.


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i still love rooney. he's still a tremendous player.


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Here you go, for me Rooney should of had a foul before anything happened. Alan Shearer cracks me up.


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As billinho g was saying:

Twenty years after winning the FIFA World Cup™ with Argentina, Jorge Valdano remains a prominent figure in world football. A straight talker widely respected within the game, the erudite 50-year-old ex-striker has influenced an entire generation of football fans around the globe with a stream of thought-provoking books and articles.
Valdano took time to give FIFAworldcup.com his impressions on Germany 2006 and voice disappointment in, among other things, the conservative approach favoured by three of the four remaining teams.

FIFAworldcup.com: Señor Valdano, what do you think of the FIFA World Cup to date?
Jorge Valdano: There has been some good news. Teams aren’t just defending again with a back four, they’ve also gone back to zonal marking and have done away with wing-backs. They’re also defending a little further up the field than we’re used to, and some teams have even used three forwards.

And the bad news?
There’s plenty of that too. The main problem is there isn’t much risk-taking going on and that’s true for both coaches and players. Everyone’s sticking to what they’ve been told to do. No one tries to go on a run or hit a crossfield ball for fear of breaking the pattern of the game. Naturally enough, the greater the pressure – from the Round of 16 onwards, for example – the harder teams play and the greater the fear of trying something different.

So that is when figures like Zinedine Zidane make their mark even more?
Exactly! In tight games like the quarter-finals someone with the zest, talent and vision of Zidane stands out head and shoulders above the rest.

Why do you think Brazil got knocked out, and what did you make of Ronaldinho’s overall performance?
(Pauses for a moment) It’s difficult to defend the way Brazil played. Too many good players just moving the ball around a lot, positional problems, an undermanned midfield and the failure to abide by one of the maxims of Brazilian football: keep control of the ball. This team struggled in all those areas.

As for Ronaldinho, I think he started slipping out of the role he normally occupies with Barcelona, and then he started losing the ball, and he's at his best when he is in possession. Throughout the World Cup he just looked like a stranger in the team. My only conclusion after seeing Ronaldinho here is that he needs Barcelona more than Barcelona needs him.

Four European semi-finalists. Does that signify a new trend or is it just because the World Cup is being played in Germany?
The fact the tournament is in Europe does have something to do with it, but there are less extenuating circumstances this time around. Most of the Brazil and Argentina players play in Europe now and they should be used to playing here.

Talking of Argentina, what is your lasting impression of the team’s performance?
Argentina played extremely well, but there was too much of a difference between the highs of the Serbia and Montenegro game and the lows of the Mexico match. I got the feeling the team had some doubts in their mind when they played Mexico and that led to a seeming obsession with tactics against Germany. Sometimes, when you worry too much about tactics, some of the best players get overlooked. The only thing I’m sorry about is that we didn’t see more of (Lionel) Messi in action. That said, the team performed very well indeed.


Would you mind expanding a little more on Messi?
I just think we saw very little of him. Even so, it was enough to realise that he’s a player with something that sets him apart from the rest we’ve seen in Germany. He’s also prepared to go out and take risks, all that in a World Cup where nobody wants to gamble.

There is a lot of speculation as to whether Jose Pekerman will remain in the job (as of 3 July, the AFA had yet to accept his offer to resign). What is your opinion?
I think Pekerman did a good job. Nevertheless, it’s a job where you have to cope with some very strong emotions and you need to be very sure of yourself. He’s decided to turn his back on it all, and I imagine he’s got his reasons for that.

Spain coach Luis Aragones has had his contract renewed. Did you like the way the Spanish played?
He defined a style, a specific way of doing things and they became a team with a character of their own. They’ve made some interesting progress particularly when you bear in mind the team has an average age of around 24. If he carries on working with the same group, Spain could have a very exciting future.

Germany, France, Italy and Portugal. Who are the favourites for the title?
Well, it’s probably better not to say because none of them want to be favourites, they all seem keen to reject the tag. With the exception of Germany, their games are based on conceding possession to their opponents.

Is that the difference between Jurgen Klinsmann’s side and the rest?
Yes, that’s the major difference – their intentions. We really need to do something about it. We’ve become so concerned with the result that we no longer value the resources we use to get there

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German newspaper Der Spiegel described Italians as "oily" "greasy" and "slimy" as well as "parasitic", "mamma's boys" and "cheats".

Italian skipper Fabio Cannavaro described himself as offended by the slurs.

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German newspaper Der Spiegel described Italians as "oily" "greasy" and "slimy" as well as "parasitic", "mamma's boys" and "cheats".

Italian skipper Fabio Cannavaro described himself as offended by the slurs.


What a mama's boy Cannavaro is...

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this game's kind of bothering me but that was a great goal.


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this game's kind of bothering me but that was a great goal(s).

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I thought it was a great match.

Hopefully Italy go on and win it now. They lost the '94 World Cup Final on penalties and Euro '98 to a extra time golden goal so I reckon it's their turn to win something.

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FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!

if it's italy and portugal in the final i'm not even gonna watch it. i have not desire to see who are the bigger divers. i swear to fucking god it was getting old seeing the italian players rolling on the pitch. i was at the goethe institue in boston watching the match and every time one of the italian players went down some starting singing "figaro!"

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great fucking game. although i do hate them (but less than germany, so) glad italy won, they deserved to, anyway


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i hope portugal win it


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i hope portugal win it


No fucking way!

Portugal have scored 6 goals in 5 matches...and 2 of them were penalties.

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but of cause

better than italy winning it to me. i just think they've had an easy passage, whereas portugal had to gut it out with two of the in-form fav teams

plus they've never won it before. and i love deco

actually i don't mind france winning it, just for zidane


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wait portugal played england in the quarters, my bad, i was thinkin spain there for a sec!


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wait a minunte, there was a game today??? son of a bitch, how the hell did i miss that.


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Aimarr Wrote:
i hope portugal win it


i said this in another post but if it's portugal and italy in the final it's gonna look like a fish market with swarthy men flopping all over the pitch ;)

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i'm pulling for a portugal v. italy final. i think it will be an outstanding match.

i wonder if ronaldo will be back at man u next season?

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It was announced today that Christian Ronaldo will not be back with Man. U.
Rooney has threatened to cut him in half the next time they play against each other.

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i wonder if ronaldo will be back at man u next season?

I've scoured the nets including ManU's site, but there's no official word of his departure... yet. Since he's voiced he wants out, I imagine the Reds will test the market and Real snags him.

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