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I wanna hear some of the crazy stuff he did....Where do I begin?

Preferably, piano based craziness, but his other stuff as well...

not neccesarily his most well known works, justy the crazy good stuff....


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I understand that you're not exactly asking the same thing as this topic, but you did read that, right?


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Maybe not exactly what you are looking for, but a start:

http://www.obner.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=22651&highlight=mingus

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Sketch Wrote:
I understand that you're not exactly asking the same thing as this topic, but you did read that, right?



Wait, there is a search function? LOL

it can help, but in a sense, im not aksing for peoples favorites neccesarily, but more so for some of his stuff that is a cacophony of noise....

pardon the spelling. (that may be my new screen name soon)

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From Allmusic:

Irascible, demanding, bullying, and probably a genius, Charles Mingus cut himself a uniquely iconoclastic path through jazz in the middle of the 20th century, creating a legacy that became universally lauded only after he was no longer around to bug people. As a bassist, he knew few peers, blessed with a powerful tone and pulsating sense of rhythm, capable of elevating the instrument into the front line of a band. But had he been just a string player, few would know his name today. Rather, he was the greatest bass-playing leader/composer jazz has ever known, one who always kept his ears and fingers on the pulse, spirit, spontaneity, and ferocious expressive power of jazz.

Intensely ambitious yet often earthy in expression, simultaneously radical and deeply traditional, Mingus' music took elements from everything he had experienced — from gospel and blues through New Orleans jazz, swing, bop, Latin music, modern classical music, even the jazz avant-garde. His touchstone was Duke Ellington, but Mingus took the sonic blend and harmonies of Ellingtonia much further, throwing in abrasive dissonances and abrupt changes in meter and tempo, introducing tremendously exhilarating accelerations that generated a momentum of their own.



You get the idea. All I own is Mingus Ah Um and it's pretty great. Unlike Miles and Coletrane and the like who made these perfect studio albums, you can hear him barking and yelling on the that album. That's kind of his band leader style. Very involved and vocal. By all accounts a complete asshole too.
I'm told Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus is pretty solid also, among others.


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I don't think I've ever heard any of his "cacophony of noise" stuff. I'd like to.


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Drinky Wrote:
I don't think I've ever heard any of his "cacophony of noise" stuff. I'd like to.


i forgot where i read that review of his, but it has lingered in the back of my mind for a while....and finally struck me, to seek it out. maybe its comes from his live reviews??

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I'd say the two seminal works are Black Saint & the Sinner Lady and Mingus Ah Um. The latter is much more accessible and is a better starting point. Others in my collections

Mingus Mingus Mingus
Great Concert of
At Carnegie Hall
PIthecanthropus Erectus
Money Jungle w/ Ellington & roach


I was on a major kick for a while, & I'm really off it now, but I would never sell these albums back even if I don't lsiten to them for a few years.

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Drinky Wrote:
I don't think I've ever heard any of his "cacophony of noise" stuff. I'd like to.


i forgot where i read that review of his, but it has lingered in the back of my mind for a while....and finally struck me, to seek it out. maybe its comes from his live reviews??


I think some of his stuff delved a little into the avant garde, but I'm not sure what. The review of Oh Yeah makes it sound like it might have a little of that, but I've never heard it.

At any rate, if you haven't heard The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady, you should.


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MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS MINGUS


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