how annoying are hugely creative dudes?

thrillhouse · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:16 pm

the output of dudes like robert pollard and frank black just make dudes like me look like bums. now we have the wolf parade dude starting the same kind of shit. annoying.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

um, just as annoying as hugely creative non-dudes?

(sorry, had to be said)

<---wants to rily rily ridiculously creative.

Z · **Joined:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm **Posts:** 7979

i wouldn't put robert pollard and frank black in the same level of output because 90% of what pollard puts out is trash and only 40-50% of frank black's music should be kept to himself.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

yeah, I'd agree that it's important to always consider quality while gawking at quantity.

I get a little suspicious when I meet musicians who are all: "Yeah, I write, like, 50 songs a month...". Yes, some people have a crazy output... but c'mon... how special could each of those songs really be? It also tips me off to the fact that they maybe don't get it...

Even Prince has some duds.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

5 seconds to reply posts re: "gawking at quantity".

FT · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:34 pm

FT Wrote:

i wouldn't put robert pollard and frank black in the same level of output because 30% of what pollard puts out is trash and only 10-15% of frank black's music should be kept to himself.

jewels santana · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 pm **Posts:** 10198

i'm not creative . . . . . .
i'm in pittsburgh

FT · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:38 pm

jewels santana Wrote:

i'm not creative . . . . . .
i'm in pittsburgh

Well played, sir!!!

thrillhouse · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:43 pm

pollysix Wrote:

um, just as annoying as hugely creative non-dudes?

(sorry, had to be said)

<---wants to rily rily ridiculously creative.

dude is unisex in my lexicon, dude

FT · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:45 pm

thrillhouse Wrote:

pollysix Wrote:

um, just as annoying as hugely creative non-dudes?

(sorry, had to be said)

<---wants to rily rily ridiculously creative.

dude is unisex in my lexicon, dude

Same here, though every time I say it to my wife, she says, Don't 'dude' me!"

jsh · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:49 pm

FT Wrote:

jewels santana Wrote:

i'm not creative . . . . . .
i'm in pittsburgh

Well played, sir!!!

I was creative 3 years ago . . .
I'm in Montreal.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

thrillhouse Wrote:

pollysix Wrote:

um, just as annoying as hugely creative non-dudes?

(sorry, had to be said)

<---wants to rily rily ridiculously creative.

dude is unisex in my lexicon, dude

Thanks dude.

I actually do call my friends "dude" but kind of ironically.
Don't think I'd be down with my man calling me dude though... it would make me feel like we were "just friends"... which would be sad.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

I Got Ish Wrote:

FT Wrote:

jewels santana Wrote:

i'm not creative . . . . . .
i'm in pittsburgh

Well played, sir!!!

I was creative 3 years ago . . .
I'm in Montreal.

Get back into it!!! :rockbanana:

I'm still creative... and I moved from Mtl to TORONTO. (!)

jsh · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:06 pm

It's Toronto's turn to shine!

thrillhouse · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:12 pm

hey is toronto any fun? tell me the truth because the wife and i are deciding if we should go for an optional work thing.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

I Got Ish Wrote:

It's Toronto's turn to shine!

Uh... not really. Can't say I'm really down with most of the music that comes out of here. Feist yes. Gentleman Reg yes. Do Make... yes. Raising the Fawn yes. And Apostle of Hustle. And... not sure who else.

People here truly are into electro-synth "performance" joke bands. Me no likey. Go into theatre! Not music. (um. :oops:

)

It's like for a lot of people here "starting a band" is a way to be social and part of something... rather than an actual interest in music.

So I still find I'm more inspired by the peeps I know from Mtl.

But for me personally it's been more creative here.

jsh · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:24 pm

Thrillhouse, Toronto can be a lot of fun. I think it's a great city.

Yeah, Polly, I guess you're right. I can't think of many bands from Toronto that I like, beyond the Do Makes. Every town is allowed at least one joke synth-pop band - Montreal's World Provider, Milwaukee's Juiceboxxx, and Dallas' Best Fwends I can hang with - but I know what you mean. Or do I? I've gone dancing to house music at Daome every Tuesday for the last 3 weeks.

pollysix · **Joined:** Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:56 am **Posts:** 5174

thrillhouse Wrote:

hey is toronto any fun? tell me the truth because the wife and i are deciding if we should go for an optional work thing.

Above comments aside: yes.

I really do like it here. It's true that's it's less wild and crazy than Montreal, but part of me enjoys that.

Where do you live now?

I find that if you have a decent job, the quality of life here is pretty good:
- lots of green space
- no smoking in bars
- crazy recycling/organics collection
- lots of healthy/veggie restaurants
- great public transit system

It is true that's it's quite a "working" city. There's quite a strong "Protestant work ethic" here. But then again that's all up to you right? I happen to have found a part-time job that I can live off and a job that doesn't expect over-time, etc. So I'm still living my lazy life.

PM me if you want... I'd be happy to give more info.

The Mayor of Simpleton · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 1:29 pm

Z Wrote:

i wouldn't put robert pollard and frank black in the same level of output because 90% of what pollard puts out is trash.

If you seriously think 90% of Pollard's music is "trash," you aren't really listening.

Z · **Joined:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm **Posts:** 7979

The Mayor of Simpleton Wrote:

Z Wrote:

i wouldn't put robert pollard and frank black in the same level of output because 90% of what pollard puts out is trash.

If you seriously think 90% of Pollard's music is "trash," you aren't really listening.

ok, fine, 85%. but are you one of those people who thinks gbv/pollard is best evs? cause i can't reason with you people.

The Mayor of Simpleton · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:14 pm

Z Wrote:

The Mayor of Simpleton Wrote:

Z Wrote:

i wouldn't put robert pollard and frank black in the same level of output because 90% of what pollard puts out is trash.

If you seriously think 90% of Pollard's music is "trash," you aren't really listening.

ok, fine, 85%. but are you one of those people who thinks gbv/pollard is best evs? cause i can't reason with you people.

I don't think he's "best evs" because no one person is, but I think he's seriously talented and among the best. The guy has an amazing ear for melody and a great mind for off-kilter lyrics, and has a pretty damned solid track record. I can think of no one else who has written songs for as long as he has, as many as he has, and turned out as many STRONG songs as he has. If you're one of "those people" who can seriously write off such an incredible amount of strong song writing, why would I even bother reasoning with you?

paladisiac · **Posted:** Wed Aug 16, 2006 4:19 pm

ryan adams > christina aguilera

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