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Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:03 am

the redworm Wrote:

gang starr. I always blew them off when I was younger and just never cared enough about guru to fill in what I missed.

Gangstarr is on the swarm. Brain Storm. I don't know how you can like all the shite hip-hop you do, and not be into Gang Starr. I like that comp that jewelz reccomended but you can't go wrong with the middle three albums. Songs like "Just to Get a Rep" and "Dwyck" were soundtracks to my life in those days.

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

Wire. Everyone 'round here seems to love them but i've never heard so much as a single song.

Stick some shit in your ears, it'll be more satisfying. IMO the single most overrated band around these parts (and that includes The Stooges)

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 11:15 am

Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

Wire. Everyone 'round here seems to love them but i've never heard so much as a single song.

Stick some shit in your ears, it'll be more satisfying. IMO the single most overrated band around these parts (and that includes The Stooges)

I'll never understand you on those bands. I can understand Wire post- Pink Flag because they got more artsy but your Stooges hate baffles me and, quite frankly, makes me hate you more than I already do.

mcaputo · **Posted:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:23 pm

jewels santana Wrote:

i put together a 70 minute comp of The Fall if anyone wants it.

Jewels,
Definitely interested in hearing this. Thanks

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:43 pm

Rick Derris Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

Wire. Everyone 'round here seems to love them but i've never heard so much as a single song.

Stick some shit in your ears, it'll be more satisfying. IMO the single most overrated band around these parts (and that includes The Stooges)

I'll never understand you on those bands. I can understand Wire post- Pink Flag because they got more artsy but your Stooges hate baffles me and, quite frankly, makes me hate you more than I already do.

Yeah, ignore the Senator on this subject (well, among others). For you (Mick), I'd say approach Wire in reverse order:

1. 154
2. Chairs Missing
3. Pink Flag

Songs to check out initally might be "The 15th" and "Map Ref. 41° N 93° W", two of their most overtly pop and proto-new wave songs. Both of those, like pretty much all the rest of their stuff, have really abstract lyrics, but they're catchy as hell. Also "Dot Dash" (which was included as a bonus track on older versions of the Pink Flag CD) is a good place to get hooked in. I may see if I can share these later if you want.

Also, I'm assuming here that you might be more receptive to the arty pop stuff than to the more acerbic, minimal punk of Pink Flag, but if I'm wrong, just jump right in with that one. It's my favorite of the 3.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:

I don't know how you can like all the shite hip-hop you do, and not be into Gang Starr. I like that comp that jewelz reccomended but you can't go wrong with the middle three albums. Songs like "Just to Get a Rep" and "Dwyck" were soundtracks to my life in those days.

I really have no idea, but then I don't know how you can like that styrofoam rap you tend to lean toward. I was listening to Brand Nubian and Disposable Heroes at that point, but Guru always just pissed me off to the point where I wasn't sure it Premier could salvage it. Plus, Jeru's solo albums blew. Maybe I'll pick up that comp sometime.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Thu Sep 07, 2006 3:27 pm

I want to learn more about...
Caetano Veloso (only have 2 proper records)
The Birthday Party (big Nick Cave fan, but haven't heard any BP stuff)

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Stone Wrote:

The inner workings of juke boxes and landscaping.

Musically, I'd like to hear/learn more about The Go-Betweens. I have three of their albums, and two are excellent (IMO anyway). I feel like I should have the rest of their catalog.

Which LPs do you have? I've got a near-complete discography--missing a few early Aussie 7"s. I could throw a mix together for you, although Billy G posted a good'un recently.

While on the subject, I'll reiterate that the relatively recent Bright Yellow Bright Orange is a wonderful album.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Drinky Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

Wire. Everyone 'round here seems to love them but i've never heard so much as a single song.

Stick some shit in your ears, it'll be more satisfying. IMO the single most overrated band around these parts (and that includes The Stooges)

I'll never understand you on those bands. I can understand Wire post- Pink Flag because they got more artsy but your Stooges hate baffles me and, quite frankly, makes me hate you more than I already do.

Yeah, ignore the Senator on this subject (well, among others). For you (Mick), I'd say approach Wire in reverse order:

1. 154
2. Chairs Missing
3. Pink Flag

Songs to check out initally might be "The 15th" and "Map Ref. 41° N 93° W", two of their most overtly pop and proto-new wave songs. Both of those, like pretty much all the rest of their stuff, have really abstract lyrics, but they're catchy as hell. Also "Dot Dash" (which was included as a bonus track on older versions of the Pink Flag CD) is a good place to get hooked in. I may see if I can share these later if you want.

Also, I'm assuming here that you might be more receptive to the arty pop stuff than to the more acerbic, minimal punk of Pink Flag, but if I'm wrong, just jump right in with that one. It's my favorite of the 3.

Their first three Enigma albums--Ideal Copy, A Bell Is A Cup, and IBTABA are all excellent. I listened to Bell Is A Cup on my commute home today.

They started to suck real bad for a while--Manscape is unfathomably atrocious, and 3rd letter is unlistenable.

That said, all of Colin's solo albums are a treat.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:05 am

Send and A Bell Is a Cup are OK, IMO. I like A to Z well enough, too, but none of them really stand up to the 3 original Wire albums.

I would like to check out Ideal Copy and IBTABA, though, and C. Newman's other solo stuff.

bort · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 1:07 am

jewels santana Wrote:

i put together a 70 minute comp of The Fall if anyone wants it.

ahem, that would be me. i have like 5 of their albums but that's like what, 15% of their output? i'm also tempted to buy their Peel Sessions box set.

Cotton · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm **Posts:** 17155

bort Wrote:

jewels santana Wrote:

i put together a 70 minute comp of The Fall if anyone wants it.

ahem, that would be me. i have like 5 of their albums but that's like what, 15% of their output? i'm also tempted to buy their Peel Sessions box set.

i bought it and love it. Maybe I'll put cobbl together a highlights disc.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

Stone Wrote:

rparis74 Wrote:

Stone Wrote:

The inner workings of juke boxes and landscaping.

Musically, I'd like to hear/learn more about The Go-Betweens. I have three of their albums, and two are excellent (IMO anyway). I feel like I should have the rest of their catalog.

did you download my mix? if not let me know and i will re-up it for you.

No, that's one that slipped by me. Re-upping it would be greatly appreciated.

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?a ... 9C7578473F

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Drinky Wrote:

Send and A Bell Is a Cup are OK, IMO. I like A to Z well enough, too, but none of them really stand up to the 3 original Wire albums.

I would like to check out Ideal Copy and IBTABA, though, and C. Newman's other solo stuff.

I find Send to be extremely dull. IBTABA is cool--I had heard Eardrum Buzz about four times live, and scoured every b-side looking for it.

duckyboy · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:34 am

Rick Derris Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

Wire. Everyone 'round here seems to love them but i've never heard so much as a single song.

Stick some shit in your ears, it'll be more satisfying. IMO the single most overrated band around these parts (and that includes The Stooges)

I'll never understand you on those bands. I can understand Wire post- Pink Flag because they got more artsy but your Stooges hate baffles me and, quite frankly, makes me hate you more than I already do.

Seriously, with all your "mongering" I don't see how you can dislike Funhouse.

Mick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 3:36 am

ShrimpZe Wrote:

I want to learn more about...
Caetano Veloso (only have 2 proper records)
The Birthday Party (big Nick Cave fan, but haven't heard any BP stuff)

I'll hook you up with a mix, then.

Mick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 7:19 am

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:27 am

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

Ooh. Sweet.

Mick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 9:46 am

phil knows his product Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

Ooh. Sweet.

listen to the Boys Next Door song "After A Fashion" especially. It's funny how Nick Cave was making Smiths-esque music in 1977, predating Morrissey by quite a few years...a pretty good song though.

Boys Next Door, by most peoples' accounts, are/were an inferior band, but it's really weird how modern they seem, as in, how many bands sound like them today? That whole art-punk thing...

PopTodd · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:02 am

MCaputo Wrote:

jewels santana Wrote:

i put together a 70 minute comp of The Fall if anyone wants it.

Jewels,
Definitely interested in hearing this. Thanks

Oh, hellz yes please!!!

PopTodd · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:04 am

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

THANK YOU !!!
Listening to it now.

First song sounds a bit like The Cure, actually.

Mick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:26 am

ShrimpZe Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

THANK YOU !!!
Listening to it now.

First song sounds a bit like The Cure, actually.

i put it in some semblance of a coherent order but i'm not sure if it transcended the zipping/YSI-ing process. You must've copped a Boys Next Door song first, 'cause BP sound absolutely nothing like The Cure...

PopTodd · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:29 am

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

ShrimpZe Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

THANK YOU !!!
Listening to it now.

First song sounds a bit like The Cure, actually.

i put it in some semblance of a coherent order but i'm not sure if it transcended the zipping/YSI-ing process.

First song = "Mr. Clarinet"

Mick · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:31 am

ShrimpZe Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

ShrimpZe Wrote:

Mick the Stripper Wrote:

oi Todd:

Mick's Birthday Party/Boys Next Door mix.

Code:

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=FF2DC5E924AFF201

I tried to make it as far reaching as possible. It's got some Boys Next Door stuff, a really dodgy cover of These Boots, some of their Peel Sessions, live stuff, whatever. Enjoy.

THANK YOU !!!
Listening to it now.

First song sounds a bit like The Cure, actually.

i put it in some semblance of a coherent order but i'm not sure if it transcended the zipping/YSI-ing process.

First song = "Mr. Clarinet"

sorry mate the order must've got stuffed up. Oh well, enjoy it all the same.

no guru · **Posted:** Fri Sep 08, 2006 10:31 am

It should play in the order you arranged it if the tracks are numbered and if Todd selects the "start of list" playback option (or its equivalent) in his media player.

Atticus Finch · **Joined:** Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:18 pm **Posts:** 627

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