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I want to start buying organic foods instead of the steroid stuffed sustainence that we are accustomed to.

There a couple local stores around that I can buy these items at, which is nice because out here Trader Joe's is a rare occurence.

Do any of you own any stocks in organic farms? Is there any way to go about getting this stuff that's not outrageously expensive? Online delivery?

Any places better than others?

I am sure with some of you damned hippies that post on this board that you all can point me in the right direction. :)


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well, I know many more supermarkets are starting to stock organic foods. You just have to read labels. Also, by organic are you speaking of raw fuits and veggies, or are you talking down the line? At this time, most organic microwavable dishes are stocked more as vanity items (at least it seems to me). Check your local yellow pages or google to see if you have a Whole Foods store or a local Co-op.

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I get my goods at Whole Foods. They've got the best selection of organic food that i've seen. As far as price goes, at this point, there's no way around it. Just think of it as you're paying a little more for food that's better for your body. Ya gotta treat yerself ;)


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well, I know many more supermarkets are starting to stock organic foods. You just have to read labels. Also, by organic are you speaking of raw fuits and veggies, or are you talking down the line? At this time, most organic microwavable dishes are stocked more as vanity items (at least it seems to me). Check your local yellow pages or google to see if you have a Whole Foods store or a local Co-op.


I just meant foods that are produced without all the extras. Like free range chickens, naturally grown veggies and fruits, etc. I have checked around and like I said, I have two stores somewhat nearby that sell mainly organic items. My local grocery stores have like organic basil and organic lettuce but that's pretty much it. It's not too easy to find free range chicken and other meats.

My friends have this stock or something in this local organic farm and then they get vegetables from them and stuff. I don't know what it is called or how it works. I was wondering also if anyone on Obner took part in anything like that.


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My friends have this stock or something in this local organic farm and then they get vegetables from them and stuff. I don't know what it is called or how it works. I was wondering also if anyone on Obner took part in anything like that.


Its called a co-op. A lot of local (read: not Whole Foods) markets do this. You can basically own "shares" in the market and maybe contribute a few hours a month working either at the store or helping out some of the local farmers who supply the store in exchange for free and reduced price food. There was one in Athens that I shopped at but was never a member of; if there was one near where I lived now I would support the shit out of it and probably contribute some produce as well (everything I grow in my gardens is organic).

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So you suppose I could just do a google search for a co-op near my place of living?

I went to some health information session recently and it sparked a lot of interest in getting involved in this. The amount of garbage I ingest is stunning. haha.


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I get my goods at Whole Foods. They've got the best selection of organic food that i've seen. As far as price goes, at this point, there's no way around it. Just think of it as you're paying a little more for food that's better for your body. Ya gotta treat yerself ;)


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I wish there was a Whole Foods in Athens. We do have Earth Fare, though it's also pretty expensive. The co-op is still around, but has limited selection, as does Phoenix Market. The Kroger here has a pretty impressive organic foods selection considering it's a huge corporate grocery store. I usually just go there.

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The free range chicken breasts I get at Whole Foods are clearly a cut above the stuff I used to get at Safeway/Albertson's. I find the organic tomatoes of superior quality as well. As for avocados, organic may be inferior in my opinion. Our local farmer's market destroys when it comes to strawberries. I don't discriminate when it comes to romaine lettuce. It all spoils way too fast, even with the preservitives they must soak that shit in at major grocers. Seafood and fish, Whole Foods is the way to go. Yes it costs more but shopping at Whole Foods is a delight compared to standing in line behind some penny-pinching senior citizen w/ tons of coupons who haggles over prices at Safeway. I feel like throwing a five dollar bill at these people just to get them to move along. Time is money.


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Hegel-Oh's Wrote:
I have checked around and like I said, I have two stores somewhat nearby that sell mainly organic items. My local grocery stores have like organic basil and organic lettuce but that's pretty much it. It's not too easy to find free range chicken and other meats.


That's sad about your grocery store not having stuff. But if the othe two stores have it then go for it. Buying organic is expensive. you can always try buying a bit of both. You could decide to prioritize buying organic for some things like maybe meat and eggs and pick up the odd organic veggie or fruit... That way you're at least reducing your intake of non-organic.

I know around here they have organic delivery services. Basically it's local organic farmers that offer to bring you a basket of locally-produced, organic, and seasonal veggies and fruit. I've been meaning to sign up for one here. The fact that it's seasonal and local is also a good thing.


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There was a great article in Consumer Reports on what products you should buy Organic and which ones it doesn't matter a couple of months ago for what it's worth.

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i'll take whole foods or trader joe's over any ralph's/von's anyday. and as far as produce goes, i'm all about the farmer's market.

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organic, schmorganic.
all of the bright orange dye in kraft macaroni and cheese i ate as a kid is what's keepjng me this well preserved at this point in my life.

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just wash your vegetables before you cook them. Oh yeah, and cook for yourself instead of nuke-ro-waving some frozen bullshit. Looking at other people's carts at any store is appalling. But for what I cook with my produce, it's not worth the price difference to buy a 3 lb. bag of onions at whole foods when i can get it at HEB and it'll do the same thing for cheaper.

It doesn't take that much more time, you'll have a couple meals worth and you'll feel good.

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Phil, help me out here... every time I go to the grocery store, I draw a blank on what to buy. When I was a kid, my mom made a different dinner every night and as an adult, I can't seem to make anything outside of grilled cheese sandwiches, pasta, and frozen foods. What's a good Phil-approved shopping list? I need a little variety in my life.

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jas, i go to a lot of food sites when i want to get out of a rut. there's foodtv.com, williams-sonoma has a very good site, food & wine and this place is my latest fave: http://www.epicurious.com/


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Phil, help me out here... every time I go to the grocery store, I draw a blank on what to buy. When I was a kid, my mom made a different dinner every night and as an adult, I can't seem to make anything outside of grilled cheese sandwiches, pasta, and frozen foods. What's a good Phil-approved shopping list? I need a little variety in my life.


Not Phil, but most cookbooks have a list of items you should keep in your pantry at all times.

I always buy onions, bell peppers, garlic, and celery as far as vegetables go. Also I keep canned tomatoes and tomato paste, several different types of pastas. Dried beans.

Another thing I do is cook meals all on Sunday when I have time and either refrigerate or freeze for when I'm ready to eat them.

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We go every two weeks for the basics, and run in for little things if we need them.

We keep a big jar of minced garlic, bag of onions, a red onion, couple red and green peppers, carton of mushrooms, various meat in the fridge. It doesn't take alot. For example, i'll buy a whole chicken for 4 bucks, brown some lump italian sausage mix it with some cinammon apples (apples, butter, cinammon, brown sugar), combine it with some stove top, stuff the chicken and roast it. Boil some potatotes, add some butter and milk and mash. Steam some asparagus. You've got a great meal for about $10-12 that you can keep eating off of. Then thinking ahead, you can use the chicken in some pasta, or sandwiches for lunch. You can shred the chicken for tacos or enchiladas (make your own sauce, no can)ned. Or make chicken salad with halved red seedless grapes and almonds and a tiny bit of mayo, or make some jambalaya with the chicken and some hot sausage and shrimp. So you can go a bunch of ways with that chicken that you roasted (which is so friggin easy to do. rub it with olive oil, bake at @ 275 for an hour, take the roasting lid off, pour off some of the drippings for gravy and turn it up to 325 for 15-20 to brown. If you're living by yourself, you can eat and cook off of that for a good 3-5 days and have a lot of variety with just a bit more effort. By the time you go out, order some food and sit down and eat it, you can have a cheap good as hell meal at home.

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jas, i go to a lot of food sites when i want to get out of a rut. there's foodtv.com, williams-sonoma has a very good site, food & wine and this place is my latest fave: http://www.epicurious.com/


I love epicurious.

Also, it's not uncommon for frozen vegetables to be better for you than fresh vegetables at the grocery store. The reason why? The frozen stuff is frozen on-site, so all the nutrients are locked in. The fresh stuff is trucked all over the country, so it's lost probably half its nutrient value by the time it hits the shelf.

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jas, i go to a lot of food sites when i want to get out of a rut. there's foodtv.com, williams-sonoma has a very good site, food & wine and this place is my latest fave: http://www.epicurious.com/


I love epicurious.

Also, it's not uncommon for frozen vegetables to be better for you than fresh vegetables at the grocery store. The reason why? The frozen stuff is frozen on-site, so all the nutrients are locked in. The fresh stuff is trucked all over the country, so it's lost probably half its nutrient value by the time it hits the shelf.


Similar. Canned tomatoes are better than "fresh ones". Grocery store tomatoes are picked before they ripened and never really ripened. Even the ones labeled "vine ripened" aren't necessarily ripe when picked. Canned are picked ripened and immediately canned. I generally stay away from tomatoes that I don't buy at a farmer's market.

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I buy canned beans all the time. To get all the salty sludge off, I just throw them in a colander and run them under the sink for a bit until they are clean. 10x better.

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yeah, I always forget about cooking with meat. I like cooking for others and that almost always consists of my vegetarian/vegan friends. My roommate rarely eats anything besides frozen pizza or frozen mac & cheese. Roasting a chicken sounds good, though. Maybe I'll do that for dinner tonight. Thanks for the help, everyone!

I need to eat more raw foods. My poor body is just sluggish. Maybe I'll do a cleanse this week.

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We like to go stock up once every 3 or 4 weeks on "center pieces," ie meat, and then get side dishes and fresh stuff as we go along. Last time, I think we got: tons of chicken, 2 pork loins, 3 frozen pizzas (sometimes you neeeeed these), a bag of huge sea scallops (last night's dish), some ground beef, and then the makings for peanut stew (acorn squash, onions, tomatoes, etc) which we made that day.

We also take the last 2 servings of whatever we made and freeze them, so that we accrue some variety. I think I have 4 different things frozen by now.

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