Well, in my case my parents were massively poor and couldn't have helped if they'd wanted to. Mythology wasn't much on my mind at the time. Eating something and not having the heat shut off was, though.

hey can you ask your parents to lend me some dough? i'm good for it i swear.

I don't equate moving out of the nest and acting like a grown-up to not receiving help from anyone. Shee, I barely make it to work each day without some assistance. So you can imagine that I had lots of it in College. I bounced checks and got an LSU record of parking tickets and they helped but My parents are more of the mind of will help you but you got to do some screwing up and make your way without us holding your penis for you i.e. go far enough away that you can't run home to us for dinner every night. Sorry if me and everyone I know not living at home till we started growing ear hair offends you cause Mommy might still occasionally have to show you how to wipe.

No shit, huh? Funny thing is, that is exactly the impression everyone here, who's nattering on about moving out & being independent at eighteen, is leaving. That is, they didn't have anyone upon whom to rely for anything, save for themselves.

So, pull your over-actualized head out of your ass, dip-shit, & recognize that you're not the ubermensch.

i think there's a huge difference between living at home and living on your own, regardless of whether or not your parents are still supporting you.

agreed. this is especially evident if/when you move back in with them for any length of time.

Yes, there is. One has opportunity -- nay, right -- to be less mature when living apart from one's parents. Though, I know, that would qualify under the "one has make one's own fuck-ups", in order to "learn" something.

But, yeah.... Selah to all this.

Geez Monty. Serenity now.

Actually I am, thanks.

I think monty is trying to admit to ppdd on his parents' dime

Monty, when you figure us all out, make a book or something.

Please dear? My buddies didn't die face-down in the muck so that I couldn't enjoy your family restaurant...

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As it is, I just wish people wouldn't engage in this fundamental dishonesty, that they are creations of self, nothing less, & have utterly stricken the cord that connects parent to offspring. That they get what they get solely thru themselves, their earnings... That no expenses are paid, save for those paid by them.

Then again, most of this board is Republican, or from Republican-heavy areas; as such, they've convinced themselves of the fiction of self, that they've never gotten anything that they didn't bring unto themselves.

Harumph.

Methink Montague is reading much into little.

I think this question is a bit vague. I think people moved out at an early age but were still supported by their parents in some way.

I think the real question would be at what age were you financially indepedent of your parents.

I lived at home until my mid-20s but I paid my own way long before that. I lived in my parents' basement and paid them rent and paid my own bills. In addition, ethnic families tend to live together much longer than anglos.

Not sure where you see this in the thread.

I did first work the potato harvest at age 4, but you know, it's not like I drove myself to the fields or nuthin'.

OPA!'s nailed this question as if it were a befirmed LDS buttocks.

Oooh. Somebody reads Nietzsche. Must be smart. Thank you Obner Moral Voice of Reason. Is your Mom gonna call me and tell me not to pick on you?

No one assumed that we're self created and completely self relient or whatever bs you're spilling. We just took the first step it finding a girl who doesn't think we're creepy and moved out of our parents home.

Take a look at a demographic map genius. See how republican and priveledge this area is. Why don't you look up when the last time we've elected a republican mayor was or a senator? And see how many republicans hold office here compared to dems.

Moved out at 18, literally two weeks after high school ended, to go to Summer Quarter at UGA. Packed all my shit in my car and bounced; did the dorm that summer and then for the next ten years did the revolving door of apartments, houses, roomates, etc. until I realized the American Dream. I did move in with my parents briefly when I was 24 while I was looking for a place in Atlanta, and while my parents where fine with it, they weren't sad to see me leave again.

When we were kids, my dad always talked about "Rule 18"---basically, when you're 18, get the fuck out. It wasnt malicious though because he was always willing to put us to work or whathaveyou; he and my mom just didnt want us around anymore. We were a pain in the ass.

Voice of reason? Fuck that. I'm just telling it like it is.

& moral? Depends what you mean by that. From what source is this "morality" I'm spouting derived?

Fuck that, too. It's a question of honesty & recognition. But, then again, it appears most of the people here are the stereotype self-absorbed, scene-ensconced indie-fucks who can't see past the tip of their nose (unless a fine piece of whichever gender one prefers is in front of it).

I'm not trying to be a moralist, at all. I'm just trying to point out the willful disregard one has for others in pulling the wool over when discussing one's "wander-lust". Not one person here, under the age of forty, is not in some way dependent on a parent or spouse for discretionary income, insurance, or luxuries. NOT. ONE. PERSON. But it seems that the largest "offenders" attempt to paint themselves as their own persons, only, with not even a hat-tip to mom & dad.

But, yet, I got embarassed over living at home for a year upon getting back to from Romania (even though I was paying rent)? I was the one who felt unmatured & not meriting the opportunity to socialize in a context typical of someone my age, albeit one living in her/his own flat? I was the lout?

Really, now....

How do you figure? The only difference is that you don't have your parents in the next room. If your parents pay for your rent, utilities, groceries, etc, you are not "living on your own". Obviously, that's different if you're in college and you're away from home. I'm talking about post-college, able to work, etc. If you need a constant income from mom and dad, you probably shouldn't be on your own in the first place. And of course, I know that this changes if you suddenly become unemployed, are sick, etc. I just know too many people who live just like I do without having a job and it's pretty annoying.

I thought this was about parents.

First OPA!, now red.

You are on, today.

maybe i need to re-take looGAR's course, but i thought this thread was about HOW OLD YOU WERE WHEN YOU MOVED OUT OF YOUR PARENTS HOUSE and not HOW OLD YOU WERE WHEN YOU WERE FINANCIALLY INDEPENDENT

Who embarrased you? I think everyone understands the temporary move back to sort shit out. All I was saying is that people around here typically end their permant residence at their parents house after high school, Bub. As opposed to alot of Obner who stayed well into their twenties.

Scene-ensconced indie?Ha ha