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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:35 pm 
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havent been able to find a story on this yet, but check the top of cnn.


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New Jersey court recognizes same-sex unions

RENTON, New Jersey (AP) -- New Jersey's Supreme Court ruled Wednesday that same-sex couples are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual couples.

But the court left it to the Legislature to determine whether the state will honor gay marriage or some other form of civil union.

Advocates on both sides of the issue believed the state posed the best chance for gay marriage to win approval since Massachusetts became the only state to do so in 2003 because the New Jersey Supreme Court has a history of extending civil rights protections.

Instead, the high court stopped short of fully approving gay marriage and gave lawmakers 180 days to rewrite marriage laws to either include gay couples or create new civil unions.

The case was brought by seven gay couples who say the state constitution allows them to marry.

New Jersey is one of only five U.S. states with neither a law nor a state constitutional amendment blocking same-sex marriage. As a result, the state is more likely than others to allow gays to wed, said advocacy groups on both sides.

Only Massachusetts -- by virtue of a 2003 ruling from that state's top court -- allows gay marriages.

Proponents and opponents from across the country are watching the case closely.

"New Jersey is a stepping stone," said Matt Daniels, president of the Virginia-based Alliance for Marriage, a group pushing for an amendment to the federal Constitution to outlaw same-sex marriage. "It's not about New Jersey."

From a practical standpoint, the Massachusetts court decision made little impact nationally because the state has a law barring out-of-state couples from wedding there if their marriages would not be recognized in their home states.

New Jersey has no such law.

People on both sides of the issue expect a victory for same-sex unions would make New Jersey a destination for gay couples from around the country who want to get married. Some of those couples could return home and sue to have their marriages recognized.

Daniels said gay-rights advocates are already looking ahead to such lawsuits. "Their game, of course, is they figure all they need to do is execute this maneuver in a half-dozen states and they'll have the momentum," he said.

David S. Buckel, the Lambda Legal lawyer who argued on behalf of the seven New Jersey couples, said he expects some couples would travel to the New Jersey to get married if his suit is successful. But, he said, "it won't be tidal."

Buckel said that there have been relatively few such lawsuits filed in the U.S. by couples who went to Canada to exchange vows.

And, he said, while many same-sex couples would prefer to be married, they are getting more legal protections for their relationships. Several states, including New Jersey, offer domestic partnerships or civil unions with some of the benefits of marriage. A growing number of employers are treating same-sex couples the same way they treat married couples.

Cases similar to New Jersey's are pending in California, Connecticut, Iowa and Maryland.

Conservatives watching the cases believe the best chance for gay marriage to be allowed would be in New Jersey, where the state Supreme Court has a history of extending civil rights protections.

Gay marriage supporters have had a two-year losing streak, striking out in state courts in New York and Washington state and in ballot boxes in 15 states where constitutions have been amended to ban same-sex unions.


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This is good news indeed. Let's not stop here.


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I can't believe how many people are closed minded biggots.


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A song Wrote:
I can't believe how many people are closed minded biggots.


Now, my turn to demonstrate no reading comprehension skill: who is "a song"? I was thinking Darrin a/k/a konstantinl, but mostly due the British atlas in the avatar (& the post-count seemed comparable, if maybe a little inflated), but since the list of mods hasn't changed, I know "a song" is not our favorite Motherwell booster.

Who are you, dude?


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OPA! Wrote:
This is good news indeed. Let's not stop here.

Agreed.

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crutches of destruction Wrote:
Who are you, dude?


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see, the gays are totally gonna start taking over everything.


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I think it's Timmyjoe

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Dalen Wrote:
see, the gays are totally gonna start taking over everything.


just like the jews!!! throw the gays and the jews down the well!!!


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wow, no wonder they're gay...

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A song Wrote:
I can't believe how many people are closed minded biggots.

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damn. that anal retentive nit picking homo deleted his post.


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you say "homo", i say "hetero". let's call the whole thing off...

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dear gays,

welcome to marriage!
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as we like to call it "heaven on earth"

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I can't believe this. I mean just LOOK at these women! Trying to push their wild, "edgy", lifestyle on us poor straight folks. Parading around in flashy clothes, etc...

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Dalen Wrote:
see, the gays are totally gonna start taking over everything.


It's in New York where 'you make it here you can make it anywhere' applies. New Jersey is 'you make it here you only made it in New Jersey'.

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and state constitutional amendment in 3... 2....

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I think it's Timmyjoe


Wait...Timmyjoe's gay now?


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