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Executive Alain Levy Friday told an audience at the London Business School that the CD is dead, saying music companies will no longer be able to sell CDs without offering "value-added" material.
"The CD as it is right now is dead," Levy said, adding that 60% of consumers put CDs into home computers in order to transfer material to digital music players.


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What would've been more accurate is that crappy major releases on CD are dead, but he probably doesn't see it that way.

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no comment, and you should understand why.

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Executive Alain Levy Friday told an audience at the London Business School that the CD is dead, saying music companies will no longer be able to sell CDs without offering "value-added" material.
"The CD as it is right now is dead," Levy said, adding that 60% of consumers put CDs into home computers in order to transfer material to digital music players.


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/s ... DFA59EE%7D

Yeah, that's true, I do put it into my Ipod, but he makes the mistake of thinking that means I don't want the source material on hard copy. EMI exec, let me spell it out to you: I don't want your shitty DRM encoded, low-bitrate files. I want CDs that I can rip into whatever format at whatever quality for whatever player I feel like for as long as CD drives exist, which will be a long, long time.

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Think he'll get a promotion for this relevation?


alain levy is the chairman & ceo of EMI globally so idealistically, no promotion necessary. but i really don't need to get started on this so i'll just shut up.

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They'll acknowledge that every consumer wants to rip to their mp3 player, they just won't acknowledge that it's legal.


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If I can't buy cd's, I won't pay for music.

I refuse to ever pay to download music. If I'm not getting something tangible for my money, I'm not shelling out the dollars.

If they want to blame mp3's for the spiral in their sales, get rid of cd's altogether and watch your company fold within a year.


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I refuse to ever pay to download music. If I'm not getting something tangible for my money, I'm not shelling out the dollars.


I guess you better cancel your insurance, uninstall all the software from your computer, cancel your gym membership and stop attending school then, huh?

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If they want to blame mp3's for the spiral in their sales, get rid of cd's altogether and watch your company fold within a year.


thanks, and i'll be out of a job.

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Timis Wrote:
good discussion for our board...


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Executive Alain Levy Friday told an audience at the London Business School that the CD is dead, saying music companies will no longer be able to sell CDs without offering "value-added" material.
"The CD as it is right now is dead," Levy said, adding that 60% of consumers put CDs into home computers in order to transfer material to digital music players.


http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/s ... DFA59EE%7D

Yeah, that's true, I do put it into my Ipod, but he makes the mistake of thinking that means I don't want the source material on hard copy. EMI exec, let me spell it out to you: I don't want your shitty DRM encoded, low-bitrate files. I want CDs that I can rip into whatever format at whatever quality for whatever player I feel like for as long as CD drives exist, which will be a long, long time.


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Kiev Wrote:
Think he'll get a promotion for this relevation?


alain levy is the chairman & ceo of EMI globally so idealistically, no promotion necessary. but i really don't need to get started on this so i'll just shut up.


come on, you know you want to!


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possibly a repost of this article but relevant to this discussion, me thinks.



LOS ANGELES (Hollywood Reporter) - Asked what he will do to make up for the business lost in the demise of music retailer Tower Records, the head of sales at one prominent independent record label responded with an almost excruciatingly long silence.

"Man," added the executive, who declined to be identified. "I don't even know if I can answer that properly."

The closure of Tower's 89 stores, after its October 6 auction sale for $134.3 million to liquidator Great American Group, will mark the end of the country's largest deep-catalog music chain, which was traditionally indie-friendly.

Many indies said the retailer accounted for between 5%-6% of their gross business and few believed that such catalog-friendly chains as Borders Books & Music or Virgin Entertainment will pick up the slack.

"I don't see that another retailer is going to step up to make that commitment to physical goods," said Bruce Iglauer, who operates the Chicago-based blues label Alligator Records.

Now in the midst of nationwide going-out-of-business sales, Tower outlets will close their doors for good within two months, leaving many independent distributors and retailers uncertain about how they will replace a significant chunk of their sales in an already rugged business environment.

"We've just begun the conversations about where we think that (Tower) customer is going to go. Honestly, I don't have an answer for that," said Herb Agner, vp marketing and operations at Los Angeles roots label New West Records.

Others also are in wait mode. "Are we retooling? Not yet," said Mike Carden, North American president of Eagle Rock Entertainment, whose catalog features a large number of heritage hard rock and metal acts. "We better start thinking about it pretty soon ... It's not going to be good. Any time a significant section of our industry is restructured, it's not good for our industry."

Indeed, the impact of the Tower liquidation can't be underestimated, many believe. "A lot of people are going to take a hit," said Tor Hansen, a partner in Haw River, N.C.-based Redeye Distribution and its sister indie rock label Yep Roc Records. "There's one less really great record store out there, and we have to understand we're not going to sell as many records."

For Redeye and others, the short-term strategy involves an increased dependence on independent stores which, like Tower, take a chance on new releases from developing acts and stock a range of catalog titles.

"We're going back to wherever Tower had a store and repartnering (with the local indie stores) to make sure everybody understands we support those stores," Hansen said. "I still want to cover those markets on the physical side, to support the touring."

Alligator's Iglauer said he planned to work more closely with groups like the Coalition of Independent Music Stores and Music Monitor Network. "They're great stores for us, but there just aren't enough of them," he added.

Online sales continue to be a slow-rolling proposition in the industry, especially for independents, but some say they will now refocus their attention on Internet commerce.

Rob Miller, partner in the Chicago-based alternative-country label Bloodshot Records, said that online sales account for just 10%-15% of the company's business. He estimates that Tower accounted for about 5% of Bloodshot's sales.

"If it was a one-to-one trade (for lost physical sales), it'd be great, but it's not," Miller said of online sales. "It's a good bandage on a much larger hemorrhage."

New West's Agner said: "We keep doing what we've already been doing, which is (making) the experience of buying online a vital experience."

Michelle Haunold, who operates the Davis, Calif., punk label Gearhead Records, also is pushing online. "We're increasingly taking advantage of the Internet. It costs us nothing to do that," she said. "That's become absolutely essential for letting people know there's music out ... Thank God the Internet exists for people like us. If it didn't, I probably wouldn't be in business."

Touring -- and selling records at venue merchandise tables -- also now becomes an increasingly important part of the sales mix.

"We won't sign an artist now who won't sell actively and aggressively off the bandstand," Iglauer said.

Bands being able to sell on the road -- "that's kinda what's paying the bills," Haunold said.

Overall, independents agree that the immediate future, without Tower, won't be easy. "We're definitely walking into a desert," Hansen said. "I hope we can find some business on the other side of it."

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I refuse to ever pay to download music. If I'm not getting something tangible for my money, I'm not shelling out the dollars.


I guess you better cancel your insurance, uninstall all the software from your computer, cancel your gym membership and stop attending school then, huh?


Don't have insurance and don't have a gym membership.

At least when I'm done school, I'll have a diploma and software is a component of a large boxy thing sitting on my desk here.


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At least when I'm done school, I'll have a diploma and software is a component of a large boxy thing sitting on my desk here.


Just as an mp3 is. Or perhaps a smaller boxy thing.

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