MEET THOSE PRESS 11/05

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:38 pm

I kind of like bob dole, but i HATE elizabeth dole. she seems like a slimy bitch. Also I am loving how both parties are saying "oh yeah, we're going to control the senate". Sundays are great.

mutty · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 12:53 pm

I usually watch Sunday Morning instead of MTP. They just had an interesting article on Annie Leibowitz, and have an piece about Lewis Black coming up.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:01 pm

i don't understand the infatuation with Annie Leibowitz that the american media thinks we have.

mutty · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 1:53 pm

This guy has crack Wrote:

i don't understand the infatuation with Annie Leibowitz that the american media thinks we have.

It is heavily linked with the general infatuation with celebrity that is rampant in American society. If she didn't photograph the famous, we'd likely never have heard of her. Still, I think she is a very talented photographer, with a good eye for interesting composition.

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:00 pm

Frist is a moron.

as Crack once Wrote:

In other news, death, taxes

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:01 pm

This guy has crack Wrote:

i don't understand the infatuation with Annie Leibowitz that the american media thinks we have.

Saw an exhibit on her a long time ago at the High Museum in ATL. It was really, really good.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:04 pm

Elizabeth Dole is damn near the worst.

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:05 pm

Sheiffer's gonna get bucky on campaign ads in a minute. Should be entertaining.

harry · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 3:44 pm

Elizabeth Dole looked like a madwoman. I guess it's desperation, but she truly seemed unstable.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

After much thought, I think a Dem controlled Congress would be a good thing--not that they'll advance some kind of agenda that will save the country, but given this administration's inability to do anything smart or even to do the stupid things effectively, two years of gridlock will be a welcome change.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:06 pm

Dole is less telegenic and less intelligent than Nasty Nancy P. BLECH.

Also, after winning one Senate race with the massive help of Bush's 2002 romp through the South, I would have hesitated to put her out there as the head of NRSC.

This election can't be over soon enough, no matter what the outcome.

Black Magic Putin · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:34 pm

LooGAR Majority Leader Wrote:

This election can't be over soon enough, no matter what the outcome.

oh absolutely.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:39 pm

This guy has crack Wrote:

LooGAR Majority Leader Wrote:

This election can't be over soon enough, no matter what the outcome.

oh absolutely.

yeah.

As to Dole, man, has she had some work done or what?

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:44 pm

And how again is she qualified for her job? I mean she's bitchy and clever and all, but did she ever do anything prior to office (other than look at ol' Bob's Junior Senator without fliching) that would qualify her for such a post?

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:45 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

And how again is she qualified for her job? I mean she's bitchy and clever and all, but did she ever do anything prior to office (other than look at ol' Bob's Junior Senator without fliching) that would qualify her for such a post?

I think she headed the Red Cross

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:45 pm

Pssh. Red Cross indeed.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:48 pm

Quote:

Born Elizabeth Hanford in Salisbury, North Carolina, she attended Duke University, graduating in 1958, obtaining a master's degree from Harvard University in 1960 and a J.D. from Harvard Law School in 1965. She is an alumna of the Delta Delta Delta sorority.

She moved to Washington, DC as a Democrat in 1966, working on issues concerning the handicapped. From 1969 to 1973, Elizabeth Dole served as Deputy Assistant to President Nixon for Consumer Affairs. In 1973, Nixon appointed her to a seven-year term on the Federal Trade Commission. In 1975, she became a Republican. She took a leave from her post as a Federal Trade Commissioner for several months in 1976 to campaign for her husband for Vice President of the United States. She resigned from the FTC in 1979 to campaign for her husband's 1980 Presidential Campaign.

he served as United States Secretary of Transportation from 1983 to 1987 under Ronald Reagan, the first woman appointed to that position. During her tenure the implementation of the third brake light on passenger cars was made mandatory. As Secretary of Transportation, she is the first woman to have served as the head of a branch of the United States Military, as the United States Coast Guard was in the Department of Transportation at the time. Dole served as United States Secretary of Labor from 1989 to 1990 under George H. W. Bush; she is the first woman to serve in two different Cabinet positions in the administrations of two Presidents.

From 1991 to 1999 she was president of the American Red Cross.

pretty decent credentials actually. i mean, what the fuck have you done?

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:50 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

i mean, what the fuck have you done?

...not run for congress?

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:50 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Pssh. Red Cross indeed.

Also Secretary of Transportation & Secretary of Labor.

Besides that though, from the results I've seen from qualified office holders, I'm more than ready for some novices in office.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:51 pm

Well, he's not a senator, nor a candidate for senate :lol:

I also love that Repubs always try the "career politician" shee, but look at her fuckin resume. Never done anything but suck on the public teet.

(also, Kyle, I will nominate "Dole's junior senator" as the funniest thing you have ever said)

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:54 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

i mean, what the fuck have you done?

...not run for congress?

I didnt mean you specifically, but yeah. I was just answering the question.

and yeah, the Junior Senator line was pretty good.

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 4:55 pm

I once knew about the red cross thing, but forgot it apparently. The rest is news to me, and surprising. My question stemmed from my impression of her today... it was not favorable. She seemed more like a bitchy, nosy grandma than a caring, intelligent politician.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Everyone's darling Obama did himself proud shilling in Maryland and playing the race card. Glad he's looking out for us poor saps in Illinois. How much was the leasehold improvement from Rezko worth?

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 5:00 pm

Billzebub Wrote:

Everyone's darling Obama did himself proud shilling in Maryland and playing the race card. Glad he's looking out for us poor saps in Illinois. How much was the leasehold improvement from Rezko worth?

I have a friend here that would consider leaving work for a year to work for him if he decided to run for it.

harry · **Posted:** Sun Nov 05, 2006 6:00 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Billzebub Wrote:

Everyone's darling Obama did himself proud shilling in Maryland and playing the race card. Glad he's looking out for us poor saps in Illinois. How much was the leasehold improvement from Rezko worth?

I have a friend here that would consider leaving work for a year to work for him if he decided to run for it.

I am not inclined to support Obama-like centrism, and my natural inclination to cynicism would lead me to agree with comments about his opportunism, ambition. I only really knew him from the "awesome God speech" at the 2004 convention, and about 4-5 long written profiles in the last year that were pretty scathing in depicting him as shallow and as "carefully positioning himself."

Then I have seen him/heard him 5-6 on this most recent book tour.

Maybe there is a politician that is smart, principled, with a new way to talk to our country. Maybe we can move into a new era of public discourse. Maybe that person is Obama, maybe not. But listening to him carefully recently has changed my mind, kept it more open about him.

Also, there is no way that Dole's performance this morning didn't damage the repubs... stepping all over Russert made her more than bitchy, it made her arrogant. Which is the increasing issue for repubs in the next two year cycle coming up to the Big One. Arrogant, corrupt, and inept: not a good combo.

MEET THOSE PRESS 11/05

Who is online