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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:31 pm 
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http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/stat ... 27703.html

Speech delivered by the guy at Johns' Hopkins, about repeating history, the United States, and Iraq.

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 Post subject: Re: Good (albeit long) speech from Edward Kennedy
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:43 pm 
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cmanhatan4 Wrote:
http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/statements/05/1/2005127703.html

Speech delivered by the guy at Johns' Hopkins, about repeating history,.


You mean he's gonna get wasted and kill some chick by driving her off a bridge again?

Sweeeet!


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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:52 pm 
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cmanhatan4 Wrote:
http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/statements/05/1/2005127703.html

Speech delivered by the guy at Johns' Hopkins, about repeating history, the United States, and Iraq.


He's probably the best senator of the past several decades. If I could pick one senator to be president, it would easily be him.

I also like him because if there was anyone the Bush administration would like to delete from the earth, it would be Ted. He's the complete opposite of what we have in the White House right now. :P


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 Post subject: Re: Good (albeit long) speech from Edward Kennedy
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:28 pm 
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Borg166 Wrote:
cmanhatan4 Wrote:
http://kennedy.senate.gov/~kennedy/statements/05/1/2005127703.html

Speech delivered by the guy at Johns' Hopkins, about repeating history, the United States, and Iraq.


He's probably the best senator of the past several decades. If I could pick one senator to be president, it would easily be him.

I also like him because if there was anyone the Bush administration would like to delete from the earth, it would be Ted. He's the complete opposite of what we have in the White House right now. :P


Easy, Bubba. Didn't he vote to authrorize the invasion? I might be mistaken, about that, but Ted Kennedy and his ilk have made the characterization of the out-of-touch liberal so common, and so easy a target that all you have to do in my neck of the woods to castigate a Democrat is say something like "And he votes with them Lib-Ruls like Tead Kenaddy." I'd rather Joe Biden,or if past Senators are fair game, Sam Nunn be president than him ANY day. And like it or not, we got stuck with the D-grade of the Kennedy brothers, whose legacy will have more to do with Chappaquidick than the Dream Never Dying.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:35 pm 
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Senator LooGAR (D-Krylon) Wrote:
Easy, Bubba. Didn't he vote to authrorize the invasion? I might be mistaken, about that, but Ted Kennedy and his ilk have made the characterization of the out-of-touch liberal so common, and so easy a target that all you have to do in my neck of the woods to castigate a Democrat is say something like "And he votes with them Lib-Ruls like Tead Kenaddy." I'd rather Joe Biden,or if past Senators are fair game, Sam Nunn be president than him ANY day. And like it or not, we got stuck with the D-grade of the Kennedy brothers, whose legacy will have more to do with Chappaquidick than the Dream Never Dying.


According to OnTheIssues, Kennedy "voted no on authorizing use of military force against Iraq." And remember, I'm coming from the Nader/Kucinich sector of the political spectrum so for me personally, Ted is one of my political heroes. However, I can understand how those who support Bush or even some moderates wouldn't like Ted.

I think it was Kerry who voted yes to authorize the Iraq war.


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 Post subject: Re: Good (albeit long) speech from Edward Kennedy
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 5:40 pm 
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Borg166 Wrote:
Senator LooGAR (D-Krylon) Wrote:
Easy, Bubba. Didn't he vote to authrorize the invasion? I might be mistaken, about that, but Ted Kennedy and his ilk have made the characterization of the out-of-touch liberal so common, and so easy a target that all you have to do in my neck of the woods to castigate a Democrat is say something like "And he votes with them Lib-Ruls like Tead Kenaddy." I'd rather Joe Biden,or if past Senators are fair game, Sam Nunn be president than him ANY day. And like it or not, we got stuck with the D-grade of the Kennedy brothers, whose legacy will have more to do with Chappaquidick than the Dream Never Dying.


According to OnTheIssues, Kennedy "voted no on authorizing use of military force against Iraq." And remember, I'm coming from the Nader/Kucinich sector of the political spectrum so for me personally, Ted is one of my political heroes. However, I can understand how those who support Bush or even some moderates wouldn't like Ted.

I think it was Kerry who voted yes to authorize the Iraq war.


Good to see he voted against it, I guess he knew he wouldn't be running for president ;) I know what spectrum you operate on, and I actually admire some of the stuff Ted has been able to accomplish, I just think sometimes he is suspect. And yeah, I practically define moderate, strangely enough.

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 Post subject: Re: Good (albeit long) speech from Edward Kennedy
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Borg166 Wrote:
However, I can understand how those who've lost friends and family members to drunk drivers or have had friends or family members raped after leaving South Florida bars wouldn't like Ted.



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 Post subject: Re: Good (albeit long) speech from Edward Kennedy
PostPosted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:21 pm 
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Borg166 Wrote:
However, I can understand how those who've lost friends and family members to drunk drivers or have had friends or family members raped after leaving South Florida bars wouldn't like Ted.



dOOdz, the Blue Dot Girl's story didn't hold up in the eyes of the jury, and Wm. Kennedy Smith went free. There was no rape in the historic record -- maybe de facto, but no de scritorum (or however you say it) -- so, watch yourself.

Plus, didn't ol' EMK have not one, but two, broads in that car with him? And didn't one walk (swim) away from it? In fact, I think EMK was such a stone-cold bad-ass playa, he didn't even remember having two chicks. He just remembered having chicks -- kind of in the manner of LBJ "having had and forgotten more chicks than JFK had had, period"; LBJ was a baller too --, and when he drove himself off the dock, he could only reconnoiter with one, and one was all he could remember having, then.


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