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If the 2008 Presidential election were held today, who would you vote for?
Hillary Rodham Clinton 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
Barak Hussein Obama 53%  53%  [ 18 ]
John Sidney McCain 18%  18%  [ 6 ]
Rudolph William Louis Giuliani 6%  6%  [ 2 ]
Other (please specify) 12%  12%  [ 4 ]
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 Post subject: Yail Bloor's Unscientific 2008 Presidential Poll
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Its my Christmas gift to all of you; also I'm pretty curious as to just where Obama stands in this crowd that is predominantly Democrat.

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Though I'm neither Democrat nor Republican, at this moment I'd vote Obama, but only if he legally changed his name to Barry Oberman.

Space Ghost + Iraq+ Bin Laden in the name doesn't work.


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Fuck this. I say we elect Al Sharpton. At least, he'd bring some much needed style to the white house. Maybe he could get George Clinton to play at the innaguration.


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you know, I can't believe I'm saying this, but: John McCain.
Hillary doesn't appeal to me. Barak doesn't have enough experience. Rudy is a clown.


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Sharpton would bring Big Pimpin' back to the white house, but he would never be Black As Bubba. And, despite a decade of trying to distance himself from his opportunistic Geraldo As James Brown past, there are still a lot of black leaders who can't stand him.


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I've always wondered why it's so easy for liberals to forget that McCain is a conservative. Being a moderate, I've always found this curious.


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Fehther Christmas Wrote:
I've always wondered why it so easy for liberals to forget that McCain is a conservative. Being a moderate, I've always found this curious.


My friend, Mc Cain may be that -- why, in fact, he is -- but he is also a (favourite of) neoconservatives/paleoliberals (same thing). All those baddies that went with Bush/Cheney to DC in '01 -- Dick Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Dougie Feith, et. al. -- were Mc Cain supporters in the primary season ('til, that is, South Cack proved that she is what we thought she was). So, the mess we're in now, even with Mc Cain winning in '00, we'd still be in it, now.

So, fuck Mc Cain. That campaign finance bill with Feingold was (opportunistic) do-gooderism that serves as a nice mask for his real views.

(By the by, Feingold, best as I can judge, is a true-believer in campaign reform... Mc Cain's just a piggy-backer.)


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Taking the question literally of who I would vote for today, I voted Hillary by the way.

I'm holding out for a better choice that will most likely never come so I'll just drop it instead of speculating or making a wish list.

Obama seems like a nice kid with some good ideas, but he's gonna have a hard time keeping his hype machine running for an entire year, especially when Hillary gets in for real and the likes of Bill Clinton start using him for a punching bag. His best bet is to negotiate for the VP spot and hope that HC dies or is impeached.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Taking the question literally of who I would vote for today, I voted Hillary by the way.

I'm holding out for a better choice that will most likely never come so I'll just drop it instead of speculating or making a wish list.

Obama seems like a nice kid with some good ideas, but he's gonna have a hard time keeping his hype machine running for an entire year, especially when Hillary gets in for real and the likes of Bill Clinton start using him for a punching bag. His best bet is to negotiate for the VP spot and hope that HC dies or is impeached (and convicted).


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Fehther Christmas Wrote:
I've always wondered why it's so easy for liberals to forget that McCain is a conservative. Being a moderate, I've always found this curious.


Are you implying that I'm a liberal? Yes, sometimes I can be, but to be perfectly honest, I'm a registered independent. It's not that I've forgotten John McCain is a conservative-- I know this, and can appreciate conservatism at times. I think what's more remarkable to me is that he's intelligent, insightful and pragmatic, compared to our current buffoon of a commander in chief.

I think Barak surely has potential, but he's too green in his career. Good things will come his way, I'm sure.

Hillary... I respect the hell out of her. She's smart, forward-thinking, precise, experienced... all wonderful things. But she's too divisive among the masses, and as much as I think she'd make a great president, I don't think it's going to happen.


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id rather have any of these than Bush. But I have been really impressed with Obama. Too bad his middle name is Hussein.

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Hillary... I respect the hell out of her. She's smart, forward-thinking, precise, experienced... all wonderful things. But she's too divisive among the masses, and as much as I think she'd make a great president, I don't think it's going to happen.


I actually wish that Hillary wouldn't run. I think she can do more good as a Senator, but whatever.

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I have no idea what your political bent is. Just have noticed that many liberals go "oh, but McCain -- there's a man who sticks by his principles!" When those principles include social viewpoints opposed to their own.

I know he's a man of gravitus and I've always admired him, but his toadying during election year really turned me off from the McCain I thought I knew.


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rpenis74 Wrote:
id rather have any of these than Bush. But I have been really impressed with Obama. Too bad his middle name is Hussein.


He's Kenyan, for one.

He was born in Kansas, & grew up in Hawai'i. While there, he did more than a coupla key-bumps, & was a bit of a scene-chewer.

He turned twenty, entered his twenties. Did the Harvard Law thing. Edited the Harvard Review (the legal journal).

He's taught at Univ. of Chicago (not a bad school, eh?).

He's returned to the Christian church of his youth, & makes frequest allusions to the integral part it plays in his (& all of our) decisions, w/o being dogmatic.

Served in the Ill. State Senate from an urban district.

He's far from the "towel-head camel-jockey Hussein" of the nativist, spooked-by-terror-bugaboos-that-will-never-get-to-their-Wyoming-hovels reactionaries that will try to dictate the tenor of the campaign.

So, get over it. So his middle initial is H? So what? So is Jesus's.


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Tom Vilsack currently, since Loog's man Warner decided not to run. I'd consider voting for Hagel if he wasn't such a douche about his fellow Senator from Nebraska Ben Nelson.
I'd probably take McCain over Hilary if it comes to that, and I might abstain from voting if it is Hilary versus about anyother Republican

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Tom Vilsack currently, since Loog's man Warner decided not to run.


Vilsack could sway me. Maybe. I've been stuck on the AZ gov for a good bit, though. So, yeah...

Also, Warner is (supposedly) reconsidering his withdrawl. So, for you, Promee, there's that.


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I'm a registered independent.


I don't wanna offend, but this just makes me laugh. The idea of registering as an Independant makes me think of the types of people who join organized arnarchy clubs.


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I'm a registered independent.


I don't wanna offend, but this just makes me laugh. The idea of registering as an Independant makes me think of the types of people who join organized arnarchy clubs.


I don't know the election laws of Oregon, but many states allow those who register as Independents to pick which party they want to vote for during a primary without having to be a member of the two big parties.
If you pick an actual third party in these states, you are typically stuck voting a non-partisan ballot that does not include major offices.

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Fehther Christmas Wrote:
I have no idea what your political bent is. Just have noticed that many liberals go "oh, but McCain -- there's a man who sticks by his principles!" When those principles include social viewpoints opposed to their own.

I know he's a man of gravitus and I've always admired him, but his toadying during election year really turned me off from the McCain I thought I knew.


his voting records is the reason i would never vote for him, his personality is the reason i think he's an okay dude.

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Fuck this. I say we elect Al Sharpton. At least, he'd bring some much needed style to the white house. Maybe he could get George Clinton to play at the innaguration.


I voted for Sharpton in the CA primary in 2004. People can't get beyond the superfly hair and his history as a knee-jerk rabble rouser... but if you actually listened to the substance of what he said in the debates, he was the most thoughtful, direct, and interesting candidate. Don't you fuck with my Al.

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Vilsack is a hulkster, and huge dudes usually get the campaign edge.


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Write in: PAT BUCHANAN!!

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Obama

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Sen. Dat Married LooGAR Wrote:
Write in: PAT BUCHANAN!!

Of these:
Obama

The Politics of Failure have Failed, we must make them work again.


I just hated how enthusiastically Buchanan started sucking W's dick after Rumsfield got canned... made lose the little respect I had been growing in a corner for him.

If you're gonna go with the cornpone populist thing, go Dobbs.

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harry Wrote:
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Write in: PAT BUCHANAN!!

Of these:
Obama

The Politics of Failure have Failed, we must make them work again.


I just hated how enthusiastically Buchanan started sucking W's dick after Rumsfield got canned... made lose the little respect I had been growing in a corner for him.

If you're gonna go with the cornpone populist thing, go Dobbs.


Pat has disappointed me in recent weeks as well.

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