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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:56 am 
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I'm sure we have done this before but it's always of interest (and comfort) that other people are as mad as I am. You see despite almost being completely broke, my credit card still has some credit on it and that being the case I've just paid the equivalent of $50 for an LP by this man....

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Perhaps I'm wrong but I'm pretty sure thats the most I've ever paid for something that is second hand.

The record is - Postcard Records DUBH972; Jock Scot 'My Personal Culloden'.

I've decided that this year I'm going to make a concerted effort to snap up as much of the Postcard discography as possible. 'My Personal Culloden' was the last record (so far at least and quite possibly ever) released on Postcard Records. Mojo lists it on it's Top 50 Most Eccentric Albums.

Here's a little piece from The Scotsman newspaper on Jock Scot and his relationship with Pete Doherty.

IN HIS 53 years, the Musselburgh Muse Jock Scot has played court jester to rock legends Ian Dury & The Blockheads, The Pogues, Motorhead and The Clash, and horrified arch-hedonists Primal Scream with his excessive capacity for enjoyment. So much so that the performance poet was booted off the band's tour, regardless of his friendship with Irvine Welsh and Will Self. Now the rhyming rascal can no longer be bothered giving rockers the run-around, and agrees that he might just finally have settled down.

"I got married, so I have tried to screw the nut because I am living with another person. They do have some say in what you do and the consequences of your actions."

Scot's latest artistic partner is Gareth Sager, originally from a leafy suburban satellite on the other side of Edinburgh and leading light with Eighties rock innovators The Pop Group and Rip Rig & Panic with Neneh Cherry. Sager provides the music for Scot's second album of poetry, the bottleneck driven Caledonian Blues, which is still stained by Scot's formative years in Scotland.

Hence there are specific references such as 'Ben Nevis Interlude', 'On The Beach At Portobello' - a corrosive companion piece to the seminal punk rock single 'Ain't No Surf In Portobello' by The Valves - and the raucous 'Trip To Butlins', an outing to Ayr that owed more to Technicolor mind expansion than getting jolly with the red coats.

In his new comparative moderation, Scot views the downward spiral of one-time good friend Pete Doherty with considerable dismay, coloured by his own lengthy experience of living that little bit too close to the edge.

"I thought the first Libertines album was good, and the second not so, but Babyshambles really disappointed me and I had been heartbroken when the first band fell apart. I used to see Peter a lot in the early days when I was introducing them on stage, and reading my poetry before they came on.

"But I can't hang about with him with all the drugs he has going around now, as I know my own personality. I have been down that road. I know it's a hard way back. So to see him being so full on... nobody can keep that up for any length of time. People are going to start dying around him, he won't be able to get a record deal because no one will want to know. It's just become like some amazing soap opera, with those characters hanging around."

Scot knew Doherty before The Libertines propelled him to disproportionate celebrity, and says the guitarist and singer was already hard core when he had to pull pints for a living before finding fame with the band.

"I haven't seen him for about two years now, but he used to be the barman in my local pub. He would let me in early if I knocked on the door. Pete would pour me a pint of Guinness with a six-inch heid, and when I complained he would say, 'Awright Jock, I just dropped two tabs of acid,' - and that was five years ago. Now he has the money, and a preference because crack is his drug of choice, and it tends to attract the kind of people given to feral behaviour."

There is little doubt that Scot now wants to age a little more gracefully as memos from mortality hit his desk on a daily basis. "My teeth are disintegrating," he says. "Three collapsed last month while chewing on my pipe or eating a piece of bread. Once you are 40 you find you can't fight anybody, particularly young boys, and it is best to shift from drinking pints of beer and move on to the wine. Just don't drink pints of that either."


Godspeed postman, godspeed.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:14 pm 
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last year i spent $49 on an original pressing of lô borges in very good condition. it's on a brazilian label and i'd never before seen the LP in the US. even the cd reissue from a few years ago is difficult to find. i guess he's best known as accompaniment for milton nascimento, but his solo work is also excellent.

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the same used bin had some caetano veloso and gal costa that was just too expensive for me to have picked up the same day. i've always wondered who it was that traded in that lot because it's not just everyday that someone drops off a few dozen late 60s/early 70s brazilian records.


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I dropped $125 for an original Radio Birdman "Burn My Eye" ep.


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Most I've paid for anything would be something like $40 (after tax) for a deluxe edition cd of something. Jeff Buckley or the Clash or the Flaming Lips.


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I think I spent $50 US on something once.
But it was rare or impossible to find... and I mean the music on there, not just the pressing. Can't remember what the hell it was, or if it was worth it.

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PopTodd Wrote:
I think I spent $50 US on something once.
But it was rare or impossible to find... and I mean the music on there, not just the pressing. Can't remember what the hell it was, or if it was worth it.

if you don't remember, it definitely wasn't worth it.


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PopTodd Wrote:
I think I spent $50 US on something once.
But it was rare or impossible to find... and I mean the music on there, not just the pressing. Can't remember what the hell it was, or if it was worth it.

if you don't remember, it definitely wasn't worth it.


I was thinking that myself.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:21 pm 
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I guess this:

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which is a numbered limited edition cd. lee scratch perry produced. very good. it was something like $40 with tax.

my Moondog cd is around that price too.

apart from boxsets that's pretty much it. not too impressive, I know.

probably have stuff that is worth more than that now cos it's discontinued stuff from obscure mid-90s bands... but whatevah.


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When I was in high school I used to pay anywhere from 25-50 bucks for bootlegs and imports at TLM Records in Williamsport (greatest shitty record store ever, RIP). The bootlegs were mostly Pearl Jam and the imports were mostly Skyclad and other early 90's Noise Records bands, after Noise lost their US distro. But I lived in a small town and there wasn't much access to music.

I also paid like 30 bucks for Jawbreaker's Dear You on ebay after it went out of print, which is a lot to pay for a CD that was widely available probably only a couple years before I bought it.


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I paid $90 for Portable Life by Danielle Brisebois.

I also remember paying around $50 for Love's Secret Domain by Coil before it was remastered a few years ago.


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For the most-I've-ever-spent vs. quantity-of-music-received ratio, that honor goes to XTC's first record, the 3D EP.

At the time (mid-'80s), I already owned 3 of the songs on the EP, but a book called the International Discography of the New Wave listed a 4th track called "Goodnight Sucker." So I had to have it. Found a copy at the late, lamented Venus Records in NYC for $25.

"Goodnight Sucker" consists of one short harp glissando and a woman whispering "Goodnight sucker." It's about 4 seconds long.

I will say one thing for it--they've never put that track on CD as far as I know, so at least it's still a legitimate rarity.


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el_scorcho Wrote:
When I was in high school I used to pay anywhere from 25-50 bucks for bootlegs and imports at TLM Records in Williamsport (greatest shitty record store ever, RIP). The bootlegs were mostly Pearl Jam and the imports were mostly Skyclad and other early 90's Noise Records bands, after Noise lost their US distro. But I lived in a small town and there wasn't much access to music.

I also paid like 30 bucks for Jawbreaker's Dear You on ebay after it went out of print, which is a lot to pay for a CD that was widely available probably only a couple years before I bought it.


the williamsport in Pennsylvania? i spent a month there one weekend.

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I think I paid like $25 for this cd.

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I spent $50 total to finally own The God Machine's "One Last Laugh in a Place of Dying". It was the holy grail for me. Only a handful released in Europe.


Every time I browse used cd stores, I always looked for the Wrens "Secaucus" (bummed Grass finally relented recently because I have 2 more copies to unload) and The God Machine "Scenes from the Second Story" which is way OOP and wasn't released in Europe and they want it badly.


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Joao Gilberto "The Legendary Joao Gilberto"

Paid about $75-80 for it on ebay a couple of years ago. It combines Joao's first three albums including the holy grail of bossa nova -- "Chega de Saudade" -- on one disc. Its oop as are each of the three albums in any other form.

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It is difficult to overstate or overhype the importance of this CD, for it exhaustively documents the starting point of bossa nova in Brazil prior to the global craze. The building blocks are solidly in place — Joao Gilberto's highly distinctive, pioneering acoustic guitar rhythms, his precisely enunciated vocals (recorded not too closely for a change!), the stripped-down samba-based percussion, Antonio Carlos Jobim's extraordinary songs, and most tellingly on many tracks, Jobim's spare, often-copied backdrops and countermelodies for strings, winds and horns that are so much a part of his compositions. We can eavesdrop on the exact beginning of the bossa nova movement with the 1958 single containing Jobim's "Chega De Saudade" and Gilberto's "Bim Bom"; one can easily see why this quietly revolutionary record hit the Brazilian music scene like a silent cruise missile. Moreover, the second single was "Desafinado," a fully formed masterpiece long before it became an international hit, with Gilberto producing a precision-cut gem of vocal pinpointing. Along with the singles, there are three albums of material squeezed onto one CD, 38 tracks in all, of which only a dozen surfaced in the U.S. on LP at the time. In addition to Jobim's songs, there are plenty of first-rate contributions by Gilberto, Dorival Caymmi, Ary Barroso, Carlos Lyra, and other writers. And perhaps most importantly, besides being historically indispensible and an extraordinary deal for the consumer, this music is an absolute pleasure to hear.


Bought lots of things around the $40-50 price tag.


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I spent $50 total to finally own The God Machine's "One Last Laugh in a Place of Dying". It was the holy grail for me. Only a handful released in Europe.


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god bless you....i just can't seem to bring myself to paying that much for a copy. my buddy has one but won't part with it, so I live with my burned copy.

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