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 Post subject: Hey sensei: What is wrong with the Republican Party?
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I'm honestly curious as to what you think: If the Republican message is so right, then why did they do so badly in the last elections despite an incredibly strong economy? Is it all Iraq, and if so what does that say about the decision to go there in the first place?

Also, what are your thoughts on the "uneasy coalition" that has been the key to the party's success since 1980 (southerners, libertarians, religous conservatives, pro business types, and what used to be called Country Club Republicans and are now called the Neo Cons) breaking up? Where does the party go from here?

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Asking questions? You're clearly some kind of liberal.

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In his numbing silence, sensei speaks the truth and offers you an arena of ideas.


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you're totally proving his point right now. somehow.

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A seat has been added to the arena. More seats are planned.
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you're totally proving his point right now. somehow.


what point? I started the thread to honestly discuss the issues I laid out in the first post, not to be an ass. I just like to talk politics.

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A seat has been added to the arena. More seats are planned.
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Corporate naming rights have just been sold, so from now on, it must be officially referred to as the Ameriprise Arena of Ideas.

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It's a red seat so it shouldn't cause a hassle.

I spray-painted it, though.


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My guess is he probably started ignoring all the mock threads and this is probably among them erroneously. You may want to adjust your thread title if you actually want him to read this...


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greezy Wrote:
you're totally proving his point right now. somehow.


what point?

The point that sensei will claim you've just proven about liberals. We can't see it yet - and he won't say what it is. But it's there.


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It's a red seat so it shouldn't cause a hassle.

I spray-painted it, though.


To reiterate another Obner's observation, everything Phil Shaw writes is read in Fred Willard's voice. In light of that, the above is jilarity of the highest order.


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if answered truthfully, this'll end up being an exhaustive read. for a quicker-skim thread, you should ask "what is -right- with the republican party?" in its brevity, it helps answer the question of this thread.

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greezy Wrote:
you're totally proving his point right now. somehow.


what point? I started the thread to honestly discuss the issues I laid out in the first post, not to be an ass. I just like to talk politics.


me too, but i think we're barking up the wrong tree with this guy, he doesn't seem too interested in actually discussing anything.

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I'm thinking sensei doesn't know much about what non-Bushrovian Repubs believe in, anyway.

There are millions of GOPs out there who are itching at the bit for this administration to quit and go tranny-diddle somewhere far away.


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At the risk of dignifying this thread, I never said I was Republican. And not out of character, you are wrong once again, if anything to ASSUME I'm Republican.

I'm conservative first. There are too many weak-kneed moderates/liberals in the Republican party. The Democrats didn't win last fall's elections, so much as the Republican's lost. Bluebloods like McCain are giving the Republicans a bad name. The current state of the GOP is no longer the the party of Reagan or Gingrich.

However, a bad Republican is BETTER than good Democrat.

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At the risk of dignifying this thread, I never said I was Republican. And not out of character, you are wrong once again, if anything to ASSUME I'm Republican.

I'm conservative first. There are too many weak-kneed moderates/liberals in the Republican party. The Democrats didn't win last fall's elections, so much as the Republican's lost. Bluebloods like McCain are giving the Republicans a bad name. The current state of the GOP is no longer the the party of Reagan or Gingrich.

However, a bad Republican is BETTER than good Democrat.


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timis just espresso'd your ass!

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However, a bad Republican is BETTER than tird donut.

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Wouldn't a true conservative as you claim you are be more critical of the GOP who ended the "Pay as you go" mentality of the contract for america crowd and the Clinton Administration. Wouldn't they also be upset that the "Neo-Cons" have caused the debt to skyrocket again by wasting billions on the war in Iraq and Hurricane Katrina projects that have done little to solve the problem?
Finally, wouldn't a true conservative be a hardcore realists when it came to international affairs and believe it is impossible for other countries to build states and that we should only be concerned about our own self interests i.e. usually avoiding international conflict.

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At the risk of dignifying this thread, I never said I was Republican. And not out of character, you are wrong once again, if anything to ASSUME I'm Republican.

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I'm honestly curious as to what you think: If the Republican message is so right, then why did they do so badly in the last elections despite an incredibly strong economy? Is it all Iraq, and if so what does that say about the decision to go there in the first place?

Also, what are your thoughts on the "uneasy coalition" that has been the key to the party's success since 1980 (southerners, libertarians, religous conservatives, pro business types, and what used to be called Country Club Republicans and are now called the Neo Cons) breaking up? Where does the party go from here?

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At the risk of dignifying this thread, I never said I was Republican. And not out of character, you are wrong once again, if anything to ASSUME I'm Republican.


I didn't assume anything, you pompous ass, I merely asked you a series of questions that I was honestly curious about your answers to given that there aren't a lot of people on this board who share your ideas. It would seem that you are the one making assumptions about me when in fact you have no fucking clue what my politics is.

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I'm conservative first. There are too many weak-kneed moderates/liberals in the Republican party. The Democrats didn't win last fall's elections, so much as the Republican's lost. Bluebloods like McCain are giving the Republicans a bad name. The current state of the GOP is no longer the the party of Reagan or Gingrich.


Now then, this is what I was asking for and I thank you for your response. Allow me a follow up:

These "Bluebloods like McCain"(which is IMHO a ridiculous thing to say and shows that you may not really know very much about John McCain but thats another issue), who have strayed from the Conservative tradition of the party, does this also include the current president and vice president Mr. Bush and Mr. Cheney? I'm honestly curious as to where a real conservative comes down on two guys who have completely abandoned almost every principle that the conservative movement was built on.

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However, a bad Republican is BETTER than good Democrat.


If you are indeed a conservative first and as non partisan as you claim to be then you must know how incredibly stupid this statement makes you sound, right?

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