Did I miss the Giuliani for President Thread?

no guru · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:44 pm

So because you think you know what I comprehend it validates your argument?

Well, I'd say no, but then I'm a fucktard.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:45 pm

nobody Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

Ask Tanner how this works.

Didn't his opponent, an avowed racist with no formal pary support and very little in the way of financing still manage to garner a decent amount of votes?

If a guy like that can win even a quarter of the electorate, sadly enough I don't think we should underestimate the effects of race on modern American elections.

No, in LA in 2003 the Repubs nominated a Indian (dot, not feather) and was leading the whole way until people actually went to the voting booths, and voted for the white lady.

gregrey · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:45 pm

So you are opposed to profiling? That offends your delicate sensibilities? BTW, I am 13. I'm still smarter than you.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:46 pm

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

I know Bloor disagrees, but I like Rudy. I also think Rudy should hang a lantern on his problems: WHY THE FUCK DO WE WANT A SUNDAY SCHOOL TEACHER IN THE WHITE HOUSE?! He could fuck a black prostie on the white house lawn for all I care, I like someone willing to go to mat with these swine, no matter who these swine are. Dude took on the mafia, union corruption and all of NYCs various fiefdoms, and when teh chips (and BUILDINGS) were down, homie did his thing. I am a fan.

Christ, you have a short memory; I've said some really negative things about Rudy over the years because I have a lot of problems with him personally--also, he is the John Walsh of 9/11, but I've also always respected a lot of the stuff that he did in NYC, but we just had a conversation LAST FUCKING WEEK after that little thing that Mathews said where I said I thought I might could actually vote for the guy given the right circumstances.

Anyway, there's bigger fish to fry in this thread:

gregrey Wrote:

Guiliani is way too smart to be a Republitard. You have to be a moderate conservative to get elected mayor of NYC. He doesn't give a shit about gay marriage, abortion, or any of the other issues that true conservatives obsses about. If he did then he never would have been mayor. Same goes for Swartzenegger. Us libs in California can tolerate the Governator because he isn't a foaming at the mouth religious zealot. Same for Rudy in the NYC '90s. I'm sure all the red, flyover states in middle america are gonna be repulsed by Guiliani's liberal laissez-faire attitude, even though he is likely to portray himself as some family values proponent. But considering his acrimonious divorce that shit a'int gonna fly with dim-witted rednecks who think he's a Jew. Republicans need to appeal to the segment of the voting populace who thought Saddam had something to do with 9/11. Morons are their bread and butter. Guiliani will never appeal to these dummies from the South. I think McCain is gonna be the guy for the republitards. He's gonna appeal to the flag-waving rednecks and he isn't as repulsive to dems as the Brownbacks of the world who want to impose the 1950's on America.

Do you really believe this? Jesus man, calm down, because you are coming across like the left wing version of Michael Savage.

Also, nice work stealing that "bag of cocks" line from Louis CK, dipshit.

no guru · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:48 pm

gregrey Wrote:

So you are opposed to profiling? That offends your delicate sensibilities? BTW, I am 13. I'm still smarter than you.

Delicate sensibilities? How about awareness of reality.

The south is much more complicated than just "Republican."

But if you'd rather insult than talk, that's fine, too

Kingfish · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:50 pm

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

nobody Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

Ask Tanner how this works.

Didn't his opponent, an avowed racist with no formal pary support and very little in the way of financing still manage to garner a decent amount of votes?

If a guy like that can win even a quarter of the electorate, sadly enough I don't think we should underestimate the effects of race on modern American elections.

No, in LA in 2003 the Repubs nominated a Indian (dot, not feather) and was leading the whole way until people actually went to the voting booths, and voted for the white lady.

Pretty much what happened. Let this be clear Jindal was easily the better candidate by any measurement and republican. He did dominate S. LA even winning where Blanco was from. But those racist fucks in N. LA set back LA another 50 years.

He's running again so we'll see.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:50 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

I've said some really negative things about Rudy over the years because I have a lot of problems with him personally--also, he is the John Walsh of 9/11, but I've also always respected a lot of the stuff that he did in NYC

I thought you were one of those "He's a the fun police types"

Also, I have been drunk since I got this job.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:52 pm

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

I've said some really negative things about Rudy over the years because I have a lot of problems with him personally--also, he is the John Walsh of 9/11, but I've also always respected a lot of the stuff that he did in NYC

I thought you were one of those "He's a the fun police types"

Also, I have been drunk since I got this job.

I read that as "he's a the fuh police" same difference I suppose.

Hegel · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:55 pm

gregrey Wrote:

BTW, I am 13.

well, there you go.

FT · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:59 pm

f r o s t e d Wrote:

The neighbor dude from Office Space, that's middle america, not some moronic mass o' dumb.

Sweet Jebus, P'Shaw, could you not have found a better example to refute the moronic mass o' dumb argument than LAWRENCE?!?

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:59 pm

[quote="Yail Bloor"]
Anyway, there's bigger fish to fry in this thread:
/quote]

I was hoping they would take it somewhere else.

no guru · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:16 pm

FT Wrote:

f r o s t e d Wrote:

The neighbor dude from Office Space, that's middle america, not some moronic mass o' dumb.

Sweet Jebus, P'Shaw, could you not have found a better example to refute the moronic mass o' dumb argument than LAWRENCE?!?

Bob, Lawrence is anything but dumb. He don't give a shit, but he's not dumb.

FT · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:31 pm

f r o s t e d Wrote:

FT Wrote:

f r o s t e d Wrote:

The neighbor dude from Office Space, that's middle america, not some moronic mass o' dumb.

Sweet Jebus, P'Shaw, could you not have found a better example to refute the moronic mass o' dumb argument than LAWRENCE?!?

Bob, Lawrence is anything but dumb. He don't give a shit, but he's not dumb.

I tend to think of him more as an enlightened retard, but I think we're simply splitting hairs here. Potato, potatoe.

no guru · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:36 pm

Ok, so maybe the cop from Heroes is a better choice

Johnny Midbread

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 6:02 pm

You guys really need to turn off those fucking TVs

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 10:39 pm

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

I know Bloor disagrees, but I like Rudy.

Lemme tell you why I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Rudy if he were on fire.

Back when W was going for Round Two, (and I worked for them folks who fired me), they had him come out to give a talk. It was supposed to a generic morale booster / something to do (it's nowheresville WI, there's nothing else going on). He proceded to stump HARD for W, throwing out (and I quote) "we all know he's going to win anyway, right?" etc. He didn't hint at it, he didn't flirt with it, he didn't spend fifteen seconds on it, he didn't just mess around with it.... he knocked it up AND married it. He saw an opportunity to stump for that asshat and he took it, dispite any expectations or crowd feedback. And half the crowd walked out on him.

I have never been able to look at him the same since. And I wonder what his stance on W is now?

Borg166 · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:12 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Sen. LooGAR (D-Pedantic) Wrote:

I know Bloor disagrees, but I like Rudy.

Lemme tell you why I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Rudy if he were on fire.

Back when W was going for Round Two, (and I worked for them folks who fired me), they had him come out to give a talk. It was supposed to a generic morale booster / something to do (it's nowheresville WI, there's nothing else going on). He proceded to stump HARD for W, throwing out (and I quote) "we all know he's going to win anyway, right?" etc. He didn't hint at it, he didn't flirt with it, he didn't spend fifteen seconds on it, he didn't just mess around with it.... he knocked it up AND married it. He saw an opportunity to stump for that asshat and he took it, dispite any expectations or crowd feedback. And half the crowd walked out on him.

I have never been able to look at him the same since. And I wonder what his stance on W is now?

That's also the reason I went from being apathetic to McCain to wishing for quick death every time he he opens his mouth these days. It's too bad someone like Lincoln Chafee can't become president. I like him better than most Democrats.

Obama has my vote right now if only because I don't have any negative feelings towards him and I like his position on the Iraq war.*

*I'm still voting for Kucinich in the Ohio primary because even tiny communists need love.

fuse · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:37 pm

timmyjoe42 Wrote:

fuse Wrote:

On a purely superficial level, I don't think the repubs will go for him. He is kinda of a wiener.

More of a wiener than GW?

Yes. Now, this is strictly superficial. But, he's got a bit of a lisp; he's sorta soft in the chest; he's balding; he's a poindexter. I imagine troglodytes like W giving Rudy noogies all through college. Rudy looked good among the rubble, but he cannot get that I-could-see-myself-having-a-beer-with-him vote.

Seriously, how could he top McCain among the republicans?

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:50 pm

Because John McCain isn't a mute.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Rudy's campaign slogan should be:

Vote Rudy...He's really good at cleaning up after a total disaster.

Underscored with a picture of David Dinkins sitting at the US Open.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:30 am

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Lemme tell you why I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Rudy if he were on fire.

Back when W was going for Round Two, (and I worked for them folks who fired me), they had him come out to give a talk. It was supposed to a generic morale booster / something to do (it's nowheresville WI, there's nothing else going on). He proceded to stump HARD for W, throwing out (and I quote) "we all know he's going to win anyway, right?" etc. He didn't hint at it, he didn't flirt with it, he didn't spend fifteen seconds on it, he didn't just mess around with it.... he knocked it up AND married it. He saw an opportunity to stump for that asshat and he took it, dispite any expectations or crowd feedback. And half the crowd walked out on him.

I have never been able to look at him the same since. And I wonder what his stance on W is now?

Good story and I TOTALLY see your point; Now for a hypothetical: Could you vote for Hillary even though she refuses to admit that voting to give the president the authorization to go into Iraq was a mistake? Cuz, that's really not that much different (in political terms) than stumping for W, IMHO.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:28 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Lemme tell you why I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Rudy if he were on fire.

Back when W was going for Round Two, (and I worked for them folks who fired me), they had him come out to give a talk. It was supposed to a generic morale booster / something to do (it's nowheresville WI, there's nothing else going on). He proceded to stump HARD for W, throwing out (and I quote) "we all know he's going to win anyway, right?" etc. He didn't hint at it, he didn't flirt with it, he didn't spend fifteen seconds on it, he didn't just mess around with it.... he knocked it up AND married it. He saw an opportunity to stump for that asshat and he took it, dispite any expectations or crowd feedback. And half the crowd walked out on him.

I have never been able to look at him the same since. And I wonder what his stance on W is now?

Good story and I TOTALLY see your point; Now for a hypothetical: Could you vote for Hillary even though she refuses to admit that voting to give the president the authorization to go into Iraq was a mistake? Cuz, that's really not that much different (in political terms) than stumping for W, IMHO.

Also, you might should be mad at YOU if you didn't know he was right. Also, if he knew people were 'agin it' when he said it, then I like him even better.

Rightly or wrongly, supporting W is a political reality in the Republican Primary. 63% of their primary voters still think the Iraq war was a good idea, and winnable. Coming from THAT mindset, I think Rudy G has a damn fine chance of winning the primary.

And Corey, good call on McCain.

thrillhouse · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:35 pm

rudy is alright as far as creepy republicans go, but new york is lamer as well as safer just so you all know.

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:17 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

Lemme tell you why I wouldn't cross the street to piss on Rudy if he were on fire.

Back when W was going for Round Two, (and I worked for them folks who fired me), they had him come out to give a talk. It was supposed to a generic morale booster / something to do (it's nowheresville WI, there's nothing else going on). He proceded to stump HARD for W, throwing out (and I quote) "we all know he's going to win anyway, right?" etc. He didn't hint at it, he didn't flirt with it, he didn't spend fifteen seconds on it, he didn't just mess around with it.... he knocked it up AND married it. He saw an opportunity to stump for that asshat and he took it, dispite any expectations or crowd feedback. And half the crowd walked out on him.

I have never been able to look at him the same since. And I wonder what his stance on W is now?

Good story and I TOTALLY see your point; Now for a hypothetical: Could you vote for Hillary even though she refuses to admit that voting to give the president the authorization to go into Iraq was a mistake? Cuz, that's really not that much different (in political terms) than stumping for W, IMHO.

I really don't have a lot of love for Hillary, per the "I'm not wrong" syndrome, because that's been my biggest beef with W's character. If she's not willing to eat some humble pie on that, she loses respect from me. Just say you were swindled, Hil.

Big-n-Stupid Wrote:

Also, you might should be mad at YOU if you didn't know he was right. Also, if he knew people were 'agin it' when he said it, then I like him even better.

I'm not sure I follow you. Are you suggesting that;

1. It's totally cool that Rudy got paid by my company to talk at me about one candidate right before an election (under the guise of NOT talking about it), while we got to either stand there and take it or walk out,
2. I should be mad at myself for not giving up hope that we wouldn't have that turd twice in a row,
3. You did give up hope, and that makes you awesome?

My issue was not with his being correct or not, it's with his unabashed cock nibbling. You and I had all the information we needed at that exact second to know W was making a fucking mess of his presidency. If Rudy didn't see it, and he now distances himself from W when it's fashionable, why then does he get your respect? Again, I'm missing something.

edit: reading comp issues, re: "he had to do it." Meh. He was enthusiastic. I still hold him accountable.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:47 pm

1. yes
2. yes
3. no, just a realist

Did I miss the Giuliani for President Thread?

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