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Yesterday I broke out "The Wall" and thoroughlly enjoyed it, my favorite by far is "Animals"....yours ?

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ImageThis is the only PF I'm not totally sick of. :roll:

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Animals followed closely by Meddle.

i love this band, but i have to take self-imposed breaks from them for years at a time. same with zeppelin.


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I'm a Roger Waters Man...the Wall and Dark Side, mostly

Hate the Syd Barrett era. Just because he became a basket case does not mean he was a musical genius of monumental proportions. I know plenty of semi-talented hacks who are complete basket cases.

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Hate the Syd Barrett era. Just because he became a basket case does not mean he was a musical genius of monumental proportions. I know plenty of semi-talented hacks who are complete basket cases.

This is a pretty retarded statement - but then again, you're a Roger Waters man.


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His shit just never appealed to me. And, I think there is a long history of people elevating artists that fall off the deep end above where they would otherwise be considered. The cult of crazy if you will has very deep roots in our society, stretching far back into literature and other art forms as well. It's even been played up by the artrists themselves in many cases simply for attention and to create mistique.

When, in reality, rather than being mad geniuses, most crazy people just drool alot.

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wish you were here is my favorite floyd album.


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His shit just never appealed to me. And, I think there is a long history of people elevating artists that fall off the deep end above where they would otherwise be considered. The cult of crazy if you will has very deep roots in our society, stretching far back into literature and other art forms as well. It's even been played up by the artrists themselves in many cases simply for attention and to create mistique.

When, in reality, rather than being mad geniuses, most crazy people just drool alot.


You have to be joking. Piper at the Gates of Dawn is Floyd's best album by far, and has some of the most innovative songwriting of the psychedelic era. It's really one of the only psych albums of that era that still stands repeated listens (as far as I'm concerned at least)

As for after Syd, I only listen to Obscured by Clouds (great movie by the way), Meddle and occasionally "Summer 68" from Atom Heart Mother.

Used to love the Wall and all that other crap. I can still stand Animals, but just barely. The rest is high school depresso-bullshit that doesn't stand up imo.


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<--- massive Wish You Were Here bias


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It's just a matter of opinoin. I think most of that psychedelic era crap just sounds dated, including Piper. I can take a song here and there of the era, but a whole album? Nope, not for me.

And, call it high school all you want, but if you can find more gorwn adults that still listen to Piper at the Gates of Dawn than Dark Side of the Moon, I don't have a clue where you're looking.

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I can find many more adults that listen to Shania Twain's Come On Over and the Eagles' Greatest Hits too. How is popularity relevant when assessing an album's worth?

Dark Side is ok. I can listen to that one maybe once every two years. Saw the making-of DVD recently and that was very cool, mainly because it wasn't just the same tired versions of songs I've heard 30 billion times.


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I agree with ya there (the Shania Twain & Eagles comment). I was just referring to your high school comment about the Pink Floyd Albums. It's just funny that pretty much anyone I know who listens to Pink Floyd, most in their 40s and up, still listen to Dark Side and that era stuff, where the only time I remember people listening to a bunch of the Syd Barrett stuff was when I was in high school and all the stoners thought he was cool because he was a crazy acid head. Yet, a reference is made to the later era stuff being so high school, while I guess it follows that the stuff they made when they were youngsters themselves is somehow more mature...just not my experience at all.

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Piper and side one of Meddle here.


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My major problems with later Floyd:

self-indulgent, overblown, thematic topics

sterile, mechanical, prestine, calculated production values

too much of roger waters singing and writing - Gilmour's singing and Wright's songwriting arguably added just as much to Floyd's middle era (Meddle through Dark Side)


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Early Singles all the way.
(no, it's not a "proper" album, but fuck you! that's the stuff upon which Syd's reputation was built -- and rightfully so.)
Closely followed by Dark Side Of the Moon and Piper At the Gates Of Dawn

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I find something to like and something to dislike about all phases of Floyd.

They're flawed, but still a band I listen to more than most others.


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obscured by clouds = turd

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obscured by clouds = turd

...according to MY math


Also my favorite Floyd rekkid.

But I don't do much math as a rule.


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I think it was only in 2005 when I actually heard Pink Floyd for the first time, outside of the most well known song off The Wall. I think I enjoyed most of it, but I don't revisit it that often. I guess I see why some might find it really mind-blowing, but it didn't really have that effect. Maybe you have to be a kid to get excited about this stuff.

I haven't heard the Syd Barrett era albums at all.

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Mind-blowing? Nah. Just great guitar, very smart use of ambient sonics, knowing how to not do the same thing over and over again, and some good tunes.

The Wall's a bit much, though, except maybe a couple times a year.


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Pink floyd sucks and the wall is one of the biggest pieces of shit I've ever been subjected to.

San Tropez=the only floyd song I can stomach.

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I made a list of Floyd songs I don't think are shit in some other thread long time back.

Rather than go into again, I'll just leave it at the ones that sound like "Wot's...Uh The Deal" I'm big on still. Also some of the pissed-off ones, the epic tonal ones and the cheeky early ones.

The angsty self-pity ones on The Wall I appreciate for what they are but don't truly like them much. Though I think more highly of The Final Cut than just about anyone I've run across.


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I'm a Roger Waters Man...the Wall and Dark Side, mostly

Hate the Syd Barrett era. Just because he became a basket case does not mean he was a musical genius of monumental proportions. I know plenty of semi-talented hacks who are complete basket cases.


Yep. I like The Wall, but it does get tedious listening to the whole thing.Wish You Were Here is pretty good, but doesn't have "Welcome to the Machine" on it?

WORST SONG EVER.

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Gotta say I'm an "early" Floyd man. 66-73 preferably.


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Man, the song "Wot's...Uh The Deal" forever changed after I witnessed the sex scene that used it as a backdrop in La Vallee

Love the tune, but can't stop thinking about gangly Euros having sex


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