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PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2007 1:56 am 
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Anyone got recs/faves? I'm leaving it open to faith focus. This doesn't encompass much of my collection at all. On the Christian front, I own some Mahalia Jackson, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, and some stray spirituals that are featured in the African-American Music boxset. Jewish-wise I own some klezmer, and other such music, and Buddhist I own a cd of monks chanting.

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I'm SOOOOOO far from being an authority, but I just did a story on Liz McComb (she's playing here Saturday) and her new CD sounded pretty damn good to these heathen ears.

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I don't own any Krishna Das, but what I've heard I like a lot.

I can't recommend any artists, but sacred steel is pretty great.

Slightly more Obner-ish ideas:
Sunny Day Real Estate
Pedro the Lion
Robert Randolph & the Family Band
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I really don't know what you're asking for. Songs about God? Spirituals? Songs that are spiritually inclined?

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Anything. Any religion. Its not a topic musically we covered here. I was just wondering what other people had in their collections or could recommend.

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Staple Singers
Maxwell Street Klezmer Band

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Anything. Any religion. Its not a topic musically we covered here. I was just wondering what other people had in their collections or could recommend.


If you're looking for rock music, I just heard a song by Future Of Forestry (Open Wide) that is pretty damn good. It's anthemic rock along the veins of U2. I was researching them to buy the disc & found out they're a Christian band. I may still buy it. :lol:

Their MySpace address.

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From the above link: Biography (courtesy of Credential Recordings)

Twilight

"How will the legend of the age of trees
Feel, when the last tree falls in England?
When the concrete spreads and the town conquers
The country's heart; when contraceptive
Tarmacs laid where farm has faded"

So begins the C.S. Lewis poem that San Diego quartet Future of Forestry cribbed its name from. In it Lewis describes an England overtaken by industrialization but the band sees it as more than just an environmental warning.

"It's not about saving trees but about saving our lives from being taken over by technology," frontman Eric Owyoung said. "It's about asking if we are still able to see beauty."

Anyone who gets their hands on Future of Forestry's debut for Credential Recordings—"Twilight"—should be able to find it embedded throughout the album Owyoung, guitarist Nick Maybury, bassist Luke Floeter and drummer Spencer Kim have assembled.

Owyoung and Maybury, both formerly of Something Like Silas, started Future of Forestry in 2005 with Floeter and Kim. Since then, the band has been a constant on the West Coast scene, securing fans from their hometown to Seattle and everywhere in between as they recorded and prepared for the release of their debut LP.

Recorded in 2006 with producer Ken Andrews (Pete Yorn, Failure, Mae), "Twilight" shows a band with great chops pushing the boundaries of pop music; unafraid of ambient, instrumental breaks but always ready with a guitar-laden hook. Owyoung's fine song writing in particular is evident in songs like "If You Find Her," the title track and "Open Wide," the album's first single, all of which exemplify the creative melding between Andrews and the band.

"I've become a lot more selective about things I choose to produce lately, having focused more on mixing for the last two years," Andrews said. "But when I heard the FOF demos I couldn't resist. The song writing is just beautiful, and quite varied throughout the album with Eric's emotive voice and classic song writing sensibilities pulling it all together."

Owyoung studied music conducting, voice leading in particular, at Boston University to which he credits his song writing style to. "I think a certain way when I'm writing parts," Owyoung said. "I want to make sure that everything in the song has a place to go, not just the melody. I think it really shapes our music."

With Owyuong's schooling and the experience of the rest of the band, the group pulled off a slight coup with the veteran producer. They convinced Andrews to record the basics at the Steakhouse in L.A. before adding vocals and overdubs at Andrews's home in Pasadena. From there the band took possession of the tracks for two months where they added all manner of ambient sounds to the songs.

"Ken was on our wish list from the beginning," Owyoung said. "His own work with Year of the Rabbit and On inspired us as well as his mixes like Copeland's record. It was dream to work with someone who understood what we wanted and with him we've made a record we are super proud of."

Back home the group added in the more ambient sounds to the record but also scrounged around the house to find music in washing machines, ironing boards and pots and pans, all of which assist in filling out the record's lush sound.

"Ken was working with Beck at the time and needed a break," Owyoung said. "So he gave us the tracks and we did a lot of the more experimental stuff on our own and then we brought them back to him to mix."

And with that record now under their arms and set for a Jan 23 release on Credential Recordings, the band is ready to tackle a heavy touring schedule in 2007 to play those songs in front of as many people as possible.

"This album was written in the context of some very difficult personal experiences. It was a year of a lot of tears and losses, a year of searching, and a lot of finding," Owyoung said. "The record covers so much of that and is very personal. I am looking forward to seeing how those life experiences create connections within people's hearts. Music has a strange and beautiful way of facilitating meaningful connections. That's what we want to be a part of."

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Desmond Dekker seems to have some spiritual thread running throughout the songs of his that I've heard. Someone with more authority on his music, can you confirm this?

But examples:
"The Israelites"
"Rivers Of Babylon"

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Lots of reggae stuff that talks about Jah

Elvis Gospel records

A couple Sweet Honey & the Rock records

One of those lame monk's chanting CDs

And, quite a few scattrered songs that get spiritual in all genres.

God's Gonna Cut You Down off the last Johnny Cash album is a powerful spiritual song to me. It's a traditional tune done my many, many people over time, but his version is great...


Well you may throw your rock
and hide your hand
Workin' in the dark against your fellow man
But as sure as God made black and white
What's done in the dark
will be brought to the light

You can run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Run on for a long time
Sooner or later God'll cut you down
Sooner or later God'll cut you down


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Oh yeah...the Violent Femmes singing Jesus Walking On The Water is pretty fucking great. Lots of religious overtones all over that album. It's Gonna Rain is pretty spiritual too.


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I have lots of things that might be what you are looking for.

You mentioned Mahalia Jackson, but if you don't have the Live at Newport recording that's fairly essential. Aretha Franklin "Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings" is imo the best thing she ever did.

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Among Aretha aficionados, Amazing Grace has long been considered one of her high-water marks, since it captured her glorious return to her gospel roots in front of a live audience. The original 1972 album contained just 14 tracks, culled from two live performances with the Southern California Community Choir, Ken Lupper, and the Rev. James Cleveland at the New Temple Missionary Baptist Church in Los Angeles. Fans have long wished for the release of the two complete concerts — which is exactly what Rhino's Amazing Grace: The Complete Recordings gives them. Over the course of two discs and 29 tracks, every performance Franklin gave that January, along with comments from Cleveland and solo tracks from Lupper and the Choir, is unfurled, and if anything, the music is even more impressive when heard complete and unedited. Of course, the nature of this set makes it of interest primarily to dedicated fans, but they'll likely be delighted by the entire package.


I'd also recommend a few comps:

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The first two being Soul Jazz's two comps covering the intersection of soul and gospel. The last being "Good God: A Gospel Funk Hymnal" which mines the same vein.

There are obviously a ton of soul artists that have their roots in gospel and tended to move back and forth from secular soul to gospel. Rev. Al Green and Candi Staton come to mind but there are tons of artists this would apply to. I don't think I've heard any of the gospel recordings of either but I doubt that they wouldn't be strong, just based on the quality of their secular work.

I think I have a lot more that might fit but you'd need to clarify what you are looking for.

For example, do either, both or none of the following meet what you are looking for?

The Voices of East Harlem "Right on Be Free"

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The rare first album by this legendary 70s soul group -- and one with a feel that's much different than their later work! The style here is much more strongly righteous -- with a pronounced gospel influence that focuses most strongly on the chorus vocals of the ensemble -- soaring out with a tremendously soulful feel, and really updating an older sound for a more contemporary sort of 70s vibe! Backing is relatively stripped-down, with piano by Patti Brown, organ by Ralph Tee, and guitar by Cornell Dupree -- making for an overall sound that's also a bit less polished than the group's records for the Just Sunshine label. Titles include "Oh Yeah", "Let It Be Me", "Right On Be Free", "Simple Song Of Freedom", and a nice version of "For What It's Worth".


They really sound like they took some amazing Harlem Church Choir and gave them secular material to perform. Almost all of it covers including Buffalo Springfield and CCR. I put their cover of "For What It's Worth" on an obner mix and even though its not a particularly religious tune, got comments that it was too churchy from a lot of the reviewers based on the gospel feel to the choir.

Many of Van Morrison's late 80's/early 90's albums have strong spiritual themes to them with many religious themed songs For example, "Avalon Sunset" has the songs "Whenever God Shines His Light on Me" and "When Will I Learn to Live in God") mixed with more secular themed songs.

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Van Morrison scored one of his biggest commercial successes with Avalon Sunset, a record highlighted by the gorgeous "Have I Told You Lately," one of his most heartfelt love songs and a major radio hit which helped introduce his music to a new generation of listeners. Not a consistently strong LP, Avalon Sunset is nevertheless the work of a master craftsman, its lush orchestration and atmospheric production casting an irresistibly elegant spell; a deeply spiritual record, it also includes the standout opener, "Whenever God Shines His Light," a collaboration with Cliff Richard.


Spiritual Jazz is my favorite type of jazz so if that's something you're interested in I can give you lots of recommendations but even though its spiritual, most of it isn't really religiously themed.


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The last being "Good God: A Gospel Funk Hymnal" which mines the same vein.



Damn. I can't believe you listed this. So awesome. The subject matter is religous but the music is all about soul and funk.

Funny. My girl Biggs bought this at Amoeba the night we hung out and we listened to it in the van the next day.

Here's a amazon link to it:

http://www.amazon.com/Good-God-Gospel-F ... B000H0M4ZM


That Elvis gospel disc that nobody mentioned is pretty nice too.


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I totally second the Van Morrison stuff.

Gregorian Chant.... The two "Monks of Santa Domingo" discs are good introductions.

Anything by teh groups Anonymous Four or Sequentia as a group, and anything by Hildegard von Bingem.

Anything by Thomas Tallis

More modern, some of Arvo Paart's work takes me as close to God as I am going to get on this side of the river Styx.

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The Impressions:
"People Get Ready"
"Amen"

And also, a lot of Sam Cooke falls into this realm.

EDIT: A few Nick Cave songs, too... twisted as that spirituality may be.

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More modern, some of Arvo Paart's work takes me as close to God as I am going to get on this side of the river Styx.

Yeah, 'Fratres' and 'Tabula Rasa' are great. Good call, harry. I'd also add Gorecki's 3rd symphony is there (especially the first movement).


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And also, a lot of Sam Cooke falls into this realm.


Sam got his start as a singer in the gospel group, the Soul Stirrers. I have a multi disc comp of the Soul Stirrers which just pulls from the Sam Cooke period. Surprised i forgot about that.

Staple singers were also a good rec.


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Emmylou Harris - "Sea Of Galilee"
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Leadbelly (or Uncle Tupelo, if you want) - "No Depression"

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Vigilantes of Love of love are a good Americana/roots rock band that pretty much went ignored commercially in the 90s. Their music has a spiritual slant sometimes, but not aggressively so. Bill Mallonee's vocals are an acquired taste, but many fans and critics often assert that his lyrics rival Dylan's....

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Daniel Johnston has quite a few Christian-themed songs.

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Daniel Johnston has quite a few Christian-themed songs.


... and all of Sufjan Stevens.

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I'd also add Gorecki's 3rd symphony is there (especially the first movement)

God's broken heart... I can barely listen to the 3rd... so profoundly, beautifully sad....

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