The Mount Rushmore of Rock

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Tue Mar 13, 2007 10:35 pm

shmoo Wrote:

It'd be cool to go spelunking in Howlin' Wolf's mouth.

... that's what she said.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 9:26 am

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:11 am

In a meager attempt to shake things up:

Dylan
Bowie
Springsteen
Prince

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:30 am

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

Yeah, but she's not even the best songwriter from the Tin Pan Alley group--I'm not gonna put her in over someone more talented just because she's a woman.

There is no affirmative action on Mount Rockmore.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:41 am

Yail Bloor Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

Yeah, but she's not even the best songwriter from the Tin Pan Alley group--I'm not gonna put her in over someone more talented just because she's a woman.

There is no affirmative action on Mount Rockmore.

I think she's deserving all on her own. Evidence in her favor:
"(You Make Me Feel Like a) Natural Woman"
"Some Kind Of Wonderful"
"Pleasant Valley Sunday"
"I Feel the Earth Move"
"One Fine Day"
"That Old Sweet Roll (Hi-De-Ho)"
"The Loco-Motion"
"You've Got a Friend"
"Will You Love Me Tomorrow?"
...the entire Tapestry album...

And three pages HERE.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 10:50 am

I think if you make the argument for Hank Williams, you could make an argument for Patsy Cline. Maybe even Loretta Lynn. But Carole King -- that's the woman's parallel to Neil Diamond. I love Neil, but no Jewish Elvis is making the Rock and Roll Mount Rushmore.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:08 am

PopTodd Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

Yeah, but she's not even the best songwriter from the Tin Pan Alley group--I'm not gonna put her in over someone more talented just because she's a woman.

There is no affirmative action on Mount Rockmore.

I think she's deserving all on her own. Evidence in her favor:
"(You Make Me Feel Like a) Natural Woman"
"Some Kind Of Wonderful"
"Pleasant Valley Sunday"
"I Feel the Earth Move"
"One Fine Day"
"That Old Sweet Roll (Hi-De-Ho)"
"The Loco-Motion"
"You've Got a Friend"
"Will You Love Me Tomorrow?"
...the entire Tapestry album...

And three pages HERE.

I'll see your Carole King and raise you a Leiber and Stoller.

Also, not for nothing, but I'm putting Phil Spector on Rushmore before Carole King, Jimi Hendrix or almost anybody else.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 11:13 am

Sen. LooGAR's Black Stick Wrote:

I think if you make the argument for Hank Williams, you could make an argument for Patsy Cline. Maybe even Loretta Lynn. But Carole King -- that's the woman's parallel to Neil Diamond. I love Neil, but no Jewish Elvis is making the Rock and Roll Mount Rushmore.

no, you couldnt. Not to take anything away from Cline (who didnt even write her biggest hit) or Lynn, but we are talking about HANK FUCKING WILLIAMS!

LUKE THE DRIFTER!!!!

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

I like that album but there are groupies who had a bigger impact on the history of rock than her.

FT · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 1:43 pm

billy g Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

I like that album but there are groupies who had a bigger impact on the history of rock than her.

Talk about raising the Des Barres!

Z · **Joined:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm **Posts:** 7979

billy g Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

I like that album but there are groupies who had a bigger impact on the history of rock than her.

haha, that is great.

yeah, seriously, there is no woman even in the top 10 (at least) of most influential rock music roles.

also, the more i read about phil spector, the more i'm inclined to think larry levine and jack nitzsche had more than just bit parts and were responsible for an incredible amount that spector is typically credited with.

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Wed Mar 14, 2007 2:57 pm

FT Wrote:

billy g Wrote:

PopTodd Wrote:

Drinky Wrote:

edit: The best women choices I can come up with right now are Joni Mitchell and Patti Smith, but neither one of them would really come close to being in the top 50 for me.

How about Carole King?
She only wrote massive amounts of hit songs for other artists, and then released one of the best-selling albums of all-time under her own name. I'd say that's pretty influential.

I like that album but there are groupies who had a bigger impact on the history of rock than her.

Talk about raising the Des Barres!

Props FT.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Sun Mar 18, 2007 1:17 am

The difficulty presented here is in listening to Buddy Holly's Grtst Hits, Chuck Berry's The Great 28, and then any amount of Hank or Bob Dylan.

I think its really those guys, thouh, with Dylan as TR. (who, in reality, had more impact on the modern presidency that the other dudes combined....)

Prince of Darkness · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:41 am **Posts:** 11048

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