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Jello Biafra has issued a public statement condemning his former bandmates in the Dead Kennedys for licensing their classic song, "Too Drunk to Fuck" to the upcoming Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez double feature, Grindhouse.

Biafra's objections specifically stem from the song's placement in the film, in a rape scene:

The scene is actually in the "Planet Terror" film directed by Rodriguez. Tarantino himself is pointing a gun at a disabled amputee woman's head yelling "Dance, Bitch!" as the Nouvelle Vague cover of "Too Drunk to Fuck" plays from a boombox. The terrified woman later "wins" by killing Tarantino, but that excuse does not rescue this at all. I wrote every note of that song and this is not what it was meant for.

Some people will do anything for money. I can't help but think back to how prudish Klaus Flouride was when he objected to H.R. Giger's painting on the "Frankenchrist" poster, saying he couldn't bear to show it to his parents. I'd sure love to be a fly on the wall when he tries to explain putting a song in a rape scene for money to his teenage daughter.

Jello and his former bandmates have frequently sparred in the press in the years since the lawsuits which allowed three quarters of the band to tour with him.

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I was always a big Dead Kennedys fan, and actually have enjoyed Jello's stuff with the Melvins in the last few years, but he really needs to lighten up and get off his high horse nowadays.

Has the world really changed so much that they guy who wrote songs like Kill the Poor has become too politically correct for Hollywood? Or it still just internal band politics, control issues and sour grapes?


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eh, I dunno, I love Jello, so he has the right to his opinions just as much as the next guy. Part of the allure of the DK's for me was Jello's histrionic preaching, so he's not really doing anything different these days. AND I kinda agree with him... this particular song, like most DK songs, is ironic and meant to provoke the opposite response, and I can understand how it isn't appropriate for a rape scene in a movie.


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Just remember that there were other guys in the band beyond Jello, and they're all fine with everything.

And, he really has changed over the years. I remember seeing him right after the Dead Kennedys broke up doing a spoken word and he was funny, entertaining, sarcastic, interacting with the crowd and just a really good time.

He came back around about 6-7 years later and I figured I could go see him again and it was vastly different. The humopr had mostly dried up. He had very littel interaction with the crowd and seemed more bothered if anyone else spoke than anything. It had basically turned into a left-wing political rally with Jello just bitching everybody out. I didn't last more than a half hour before getting bored, fed up and leaving.

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Just remember that there were other guys in the band beyond Jello, and they're all fine with everything.

Fuck the other guys. Without Jello the DKs would never have been known outside of their own basement.

And while I'm at it - fuck Tarantino and Rodriguez for being purveyors of such ultra-hip irony-fueled exploitation for the pig ignorant multi-plex dwellers. The mouth-breathers don't know any better, but those two cynical fucks should.


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one more fuck would have made that the perfect post

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The humopr had mostly dried up. He had very littel interaction with the crowd and seemed more bothered if anyone else spoke than anything. It had basically turned into a left-wing political rally with Jello just bitching everybody out.

Yeah, he did a spoken word show here locally the beginning of this month, and I decided to skip it for this very reason.


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this is off topic but is Jello his real name? Because if it is thats goddamn fucking funny

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this is off topic but is Jello his real name? Because if it is thats goddamn fucking funny


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His stage name is a combination of the brand name Jell-O and the name of the short lived country of Biafra which attempted to secede from Nigeria in 1966. After four years of fighting and horrific starvation in Biafra, Nigeria regained control of the nascent Biafran state. Jello Biafra created his name as an ironic combination of a nutritionally poor mass-produced food product and mass starvation. He said he likes how two ideas clash in people's minds.

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And while I'm at it - fuck Tarantino and Rodriguez for being purveyors of such ultra-hip irony-fueled exploitation for the pig ignorant multi-plex dwellers. The mouth-breathers don't know any better, but those two cynical fucks should.


You did see the vaseline scene in Kill Bill, right? Playing rape for a cheap thrill is nothing new for Tarantino. In my judgement, there has been a steady decline in the quality of his movies. Or, in Obnerspeak:

Reservoir Dogs>Pulp Fiction>Jackie Brown>Kill Bill vols 1 & 2

I imagine this newest will continue the trend.


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ooo. this is fun! let's rank Tarantino!

jackie brown>pulp fiction>kill bill> reservoir dogs


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ooo. this is fun! let's rank Tarantino!

jackie brown>pulp fiction>kill bill> reservoir dogs


This is so fucking backward


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I think Jello still holds on to those hard-fought punk ethos of not selling out. I mean, wasn't it Levi's that wanted to use "Holiday In Cambodia"? It was Jello v. band again for that one. I love the DK, and have stayed away from all post-lawsuit material. For some it might not mean anything, but for me, by using a DK song in a film whether by Rodriquez or Jimmy Fallon, it still takes a hit at what they meant/mean to me.

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Yea, I even hate it when they play DK songs on the radio. SO COMMERCIAL, MAN! :roll:


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His stage name is a combination of the brand name Jell-O and the name of the short lived country of Biafra which attempted to secede from Nigeria in 1966. After four years of fighting and horrific starvation in Biafra, Nigeria regained control of the nascent Biafran state. Jello Biafra created his name as an ironic combination of a nutritionally poor mass-produced food product and mass starvation. He said he likes how two ideas clash in people's minds.

Yes, because everyone gets that reference.


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Yea, I even hate it when they play DK songs on the radio. SO COMMERCIAL, MAN! :roll:


Is that in reference to my post? Look, if you don't get it, you don't get it. There's a line that some people would rather not cross with their music, far be it from me to pass judgement on their creation being used in a way. I do know though, that if someone doesn't want their music to be heard a certain way, perhaps it should be honored. I dunno, call me what you will.

And by the way, how is it not commercial to smash DK in a "rock block" between Staind and Panic! At the Disco?

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UPDATE FROM "THE DK"


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The Dead Kennedys have released a statement responding to former frontman Jello Biafra. Last week Jello criticized his former bandmates for licensing their classic song, "Too Drunk to Fuck" to the upcoming Quentin Tarantino/Robert Rodriguez double feature Grindhouse.

The band's stern response also urges Biafra to donate his portion of the proceeds to charity:

Another year, another misleading public claim by the ever striving for attention Jello Biafra. While we would have preferred not to jump back into the fray, we felt it was warranted to make a public response due to Jello publicly giving away key scene points and false information for a movie that Tarantino’s fans are eagerly awaiting.

You can click Read More for the entire statement.

Jello and his former bandmates have frequently sparred in the press in recent years. Most prominently in 2000 a court awarded rights to the majority of the Dead Kennedys' back catalogue to the Decay Music partnership, but following that the members have had repeatedly squabbled over touring, reissues and other matters.



In his statement, he included the preteen daughter of one of the other band members. His public comments show that he is more interested in casting himself as a martyr rather than having any regard for women's or children's rights. It also shows that he has no regard for the safety of a child. As usual, it's all about Jello.

In his statement, he included the preteen daughter of one of the other band members. His public comments show that he is more interested in casting himself as a martyr rather than having any regard for women's or children's rights. It also shows that he has no regard for the safety of a child. As usual, it's all about Jello.

Contrary to Jello claiming all the writing credit for himself, East Bay Ray, Klaus Flouride and D.H. Peligro also contributed to this song. Jello did not write “every note of that song," that was proven in a court of law, when he was found guilty of fraud, and strains credibility.

On a final note, JELLO is getting paid EXTREMELY WELL, and we challenge him to put his money where his mouth is and donate his share to a woman's cause, if he is truly concerned with the issue.

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