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 Post subject: Stylus Vs. Series - The Cure vs. Depeche Mode
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http://www.stylusmagazine.com/articles/ ... e-cure.htm


Despite the Cure being my favorite and most important band growing up. I’m going to answer these categories truthfully, hope you join me with your opinions:

Better Debut Album

This one is super easy because of one brilliant song called “10:15 Saturday Night.”

Winner: Cure

Better Music Videos

Though this one is really close, I have to go with Tim Pope vision on this one. The video he did for “Love Song” where Robert is singing because he seems to have lost his love over the edge of the cliff is brilliant. That captured that songs despair like few video seem to do, IMO.

Winner: Cure

Better Covers of the Band By Other Bands

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Depeche Mode has Lacuna Coil’s “Enjoy the Silence,” Johnny Cash’s (and Marilyn Manson’s) “Personal Jesus,” In Flames’ “Everything Counts,” A Perfect Circle’s “People Are People,” Tricky’s “Judas,” Placebo’s “I Feel You,” and the entirety of the For the Masses tribute album. The Cure has Dinosaur Jr’s “Just Like Heaven,” 311’s “Lovesong,” Smashing Pumpkins’ “A Night Like This,” the Dismemberment Plan’s “Close to Me,” The Living End’s “10:15 Saturday Night” and the entirety of the 100 Years tribute album.


I haven’t heard most of these songs but Placebo do both a Cure and Depeche Mode song. The Depeche Mode song is better mainly because it’s not live (but has Robert as guest vocals) and is really good.

Winner: Depeche Mode

Better Classic, Universally-Beloved Single

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Both the Cure and Depeche Mode are among the great singles bands of our time, the Cure having released one of the most canonical singles comps of all-time with 1986’s Staring at the Sea (or yes, Standing on a Beach if you still own a cassette player), and I feel if they cut it at “The 13th,” Galore would be held in similar esteem. Still, both bands have one single that stands out from the pack—“Just Like Heaven” for the Cure and “Enjoy the Silence” for Depeche Mode—the songs that always functions as the bands’ representatives on “Greatest ___ Songs of the Last ____” lists, and the songs that most people are likely to principally associate with the bands.

Though I agree with it being “Just Like Heaven” vs. “Enjoy the Silence” a song called “Love Song” actually reached number two in America.

Winner: Cure

Better Classic, Universally-Beloved Album

Disintegration vs. Violator, obviously.

Winner: Cure

Less Embarrassing Songs

Do I have to answer? Even though I don’t know everything by Depeche Mode this one will go to them because I can’t stand a few songs by the Cure.

Winner: Depeche Mode

Better Album Covers

Though Songs of Faith and Devotion is hideous, the Cure really don’t put that much into their album covers, IMO.

Winner: Depeche Mode

More Influential Outside of the Goth-Rock Genre

I hear the Cure named checked like crazy these days but Depeche Mode have done very well for themselves.

Winner: Cure

Better Follow-Up to a Classic, Universally-Beloved Album

Wish vs. Songs of Faith and Devotion. This is easy for me because of one song that happens to be my favorite song that the Cure has ever done. I didn’t think I could like “From the Edge of the Deep Green Sea” any more but live this song can take your breath away. Robert said that he tries to play that song every night that they play live.

Winner: Cure


Six for the Cure and two for Depeche Mode, I guess it wasn’t that close after all.

*edit: to add: More Influential Outside of the Goth-Rock Genre

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I like both. I prefer Cure singles to Depeche Mode singles but DM albums to Cure albums.

I used to own the Cure's greatest hits and loved it. When I started to seek out their proper albums, I was very underwhelmed.

I own four or five Depeche Mode albums, though, and they're all great.


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It's funny because every serious girlfriend that I went out with has been a huge Depeche Mode fan. Consequently I have seen DM more that any other band, around 15 times. I'm just a guitar guy, I guess, because I can't just listen to synthesized music (or DM's version of it) for long periods of time unless I'm out…

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alongwaltz Wrote:
I used to own the Cure's greatest hits and loved it. When I started to seek out their proper albums, I was very underwhelmed.


My dear friend, if Disintegration wasn't one of the albums you sought out and listened to then please for the love of God go and buy it. If you bought it and were underwhelmed by it then... well I don't know what to say to you.


re: the survey above... I'm not going to bother with it but those two bands were pretty much the bible for me all through High School. I guess in the end The Cure wins for me, if I had to choose. I'm just more into Bobby's songwriting and Gallup's bass playing.

I pretty much own all the DM records except for which ever one came after Songs of Faith... I even liked the most recent one. I can't really give the Cure that kind of credit for their latest efforts.

I guess I've at one point or another owned every Cure record too... well anything up to and including Wish. Save for Bobby's silly angry voice, I'd say I like everything the Cure does. Oh yeah, and Disintegration is easily one of my top albums of all time, 13/10.


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pollysix Wrote:
alongwaltz Wrote:
I used to own the Cure's greatest hits and loved it. When I started to seek out their proper albums, I was very underwhelmed.


My dear friend, if Disintegration wasn't one of the albums you sought out and listened to then please for the love of God go and buy it. If you bought it and were underwhelmed by it then... well I don't know what to say to you.


I started at the beginning and I've only heard the first four but they were pretty meh for me. Then again, my favorite tracks are off of Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.


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alongwaltz Wrote:
pollysix Wrote:
alongwaltz Wrote:
I used to own the Cure's greatest hits and loved it. When I started to seek out their proper albums, I was very underwhelmed.


My dear friend, if Disintegration wasn't one of the albums you sought out and listened to then please for the love of God go and buy it. If you bought it and were underwhelmed by it then... well I don't know what to say to you.


I started at the beginning and I've only heard the first four but they were pretty meh for me. Then again, my favorite tracks are off of Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.


I think Kiss Me is one of their best---def one of my favorites. The first four are sometimes hard to listen to... even recording-wise. Disintegration came right after Kiss Me so it has quite a lot of that sound... but takes the dreamy-dark stuff even further.

Even though it's a comp, I'll always love and recommend "Standing on a Beach" it's a great comp of their early stuff.

When Wish came out a lot of die-hard fans weren't so sure about it but it seems that it really has stood the test of time and, looking back I'd say it has a lot of really good stuff on it too.


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you cannot say "X is my favorite band, but i'm going to try to compare them to Y objectively" and then expect to be taken seriously after that.

and what is with one example ruling some of these categories? so someone made a good "lovesong" video and it trumps all of the awesome DM videos? have you ever watched vh1 classic? they both have some really bad videos, but DM's best are so much better than the cure's.

(oh, i see andrew wrote this over at stylus. he really breaks it down.)


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Since I've listened to The Cure since 1978 and Depeche Mode since about 1981, I don't see much reason to pit them against each other.


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