The palestinian kid who shot the cell phone footage was just on the Carolla Show. I liked his candor and sincerity. Plus, he sounded like a great American import unlike this A-hole who killed those kids. Thick accent + love for the US = rare occurence and this guy rocked. In California I'm used to this but Virginia? Nice!

This is what you wrote, nothing else about relating to people, no elaboration or context. If you had not seen footage you heard it on the radio or from people talking about it.

The myopic charge still stands. You did inted to mean what you said.

I also wrote, I can hardly believe and This is terrible, but it seems like The Fox News style coverage of my quote in this thread leaves that out. I guess I'll start making Montyesque jokes, since that only took slight criticism.

Just... yeah.

Look, I'm not going through this all day. It's what's in Bold that sounds bad. If you don't see it, fine. I don't mean ill will. I was just pointing out the "myopic" comment.

This is to that discussion with gregrey about people reacting to this vs. Iraq deaths, etc.

I guess if you actually read the board you would see outrage, anger, distaste, sadness, and all sorts of other emotions about Iraq on an almost daily basis. The tragedy of people dying for a useless war has just turned to anger now toward the folks that brought it on "us". It's time to get over yourself about people being shocked and saddened and then voicing their opinions about VA Tech on this message board. If there is one thing that we are all aware of and discuss REGULARLY on this board it is the deaths and uselessness of a war in Iraq.

I don't think there is anyone here who has ever said that they're really happy, unaware, or just apathetic to the stuff going on in Iraq. These two things are on parallel lines and no one here is choosing one over the other.

i don't think this needs to turn into a bush bashing when he does something he's sopposed to do. But 4 days to visit Katrina and 3 days to visit ground zero, less than one day to visit VT.

Actually, it was a sort of "lifetime achievement award" of myopic behavior.

Also, the shooter is...



Never trust a foreign born majoring in English; they are obviously not only mixed up but have no intentions of ever getting gainful employment.

After reading first-hand accounts of panic and kids jumping out of windows to save their lives and professors staying in their classrooms to protect the students, I can say that I can now grasp at least part of the magnitude of this event. I, just like everyone else want to know "WHY?". Was it just a fantasy of this kid to go around murdering people?

Yes, I'm aware that there are political threads here on the Ob that discuss the Iraq War and the senseless loss of life there.

I was just trying to point out how ridiculous it is that CNN and all the other news outlets are obsessed with this story (or Don Imus, or Gary Condit just before 9/11, or whatever). This pales in comparison to the kids dying in Iraq. That was my point. I'm not belittling what happened yesterday, it just doesn't deserve the attention of more vital, pertinent issues.

My problem is with the media, not with Obner boarders. Chill out, I'm just making an observation.

His response time is improving?

32 out of 32 white kids = quick response

With the Iraqi war, or any kind of war, you expect deaths and are prepared for them. Even if you are against the war, maybe part of you even justifies the deaths to a certain extent.

This school shooting on the other hand was unconscionably disturbing behavior that strikes at the core of our deepest darkest fears about humanity.

Also, the Iraq war isn't fought on our home soil, so no matter how much we think we might be able to identify with those deaths, we can't identify with them as much as ones in a college dormitory, probably extremely similar to a dormitory almost all of us have lived in at one time.

I don't want to turn this into a debate or anything, but personally I'm really mad guns are so legal and readily available in this country right now. God bless all that believe differently, but I'm just so disgusted right now.

This is where we part ways. Justifiable deaths? No. The Germans who died in the fire bombings in Dresden weren't justifiable nor were the deaths in Japan circa 1945. Or Iraqis in ought seven. Innocent civilians do not deserve to die, except in your vacuous, empty head, SK.

jesus.

Maybe I should take the Senator's reading comprehension course because it had sounded like you were reacting to us talking about and discussing this here. I missed the commentary on the media.

Are you serious! Oh, the naive and idealistic. Of course innocent civilians don't deserve to die, but are their deaths justifiable, maybe. War is hell and in any modern war innocents are going to die and any side that doesn't aknowledge that is going to boe overrun by an enemy that doesn't hold innocent lives so highly. War is not dainty, there is going to be innocent blood shed, obviously when, as in vietnam, the innocents are killed for fun there is no defense for that type of behaviour. While I'm antiwar I'm not so naive to think that war will stop happening, and honestly it only makes sense that the media would protray these events as they have. First off this was the largest shooting in US history where students were killed, most of us have been students at one point or another so we can relate, secondly the Media can't be outraged at every single death in Iraq, they're a business and saying the same thing over and over again does nothing for ratings, plus you can't stay outraged every single day for years.

I'm not gonna listen to a guy who says, "are their" instead of "are there" and misspell aknowledge, behaviour, and protray (ok, possible typo). You are a collosal asshole.

Of course the media should be outraged about these deaths in Iraq. That is the problem in a nut shell, you jack ass. The media seems to be in an uproar about these kids in WV, after all.

Ok, they're a business, so that exculpates them from reporting the news properly. You are brain dead apparently.

Jump off a bridge, please, just so we don't have to throw you off it.

once again, jesus

I don't recall the first thing my debate instructor in college telling us was "villify your opponent, rile him up, insult him -- that way your ridiculously sheltered and inaccurate viewpoints won't sound so silly"

But maybe times have changed.

yeah, gregrey is on mondo tilt now, it's sort of hilariously bad

I'm completely against the Iraqi war and do not think any of the deaths are justifiable myself, I was just giving a f'rinstance, but whatever.

Guys, cut gregrey some slack. I'm sure it's just the AIDS acting up again.

Hey, Drink's a comic-edian and whatnot.

dude, "Even if you are against the war, maybe part of you even justifies the deaths to a certain extent."

i think it's pretty clear you love war. you love war so much you should marry it.

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