I make that coach look like fabio so i'm safe.

Besides, have you talked to 22-23 year old girls lately? Single, fresh out of college, supposedly educated? Those are some of the most vapid, awkward conversations ever. With high school kids, it's the same shit, but cuter, because THEY'RE KIDS.

KIDS!!!

There is no decision to make, we made it when we decided to become educators.

At least, that's how I feel about it. They may start to look like adults, but they. are. not.

I feel wierd when i make a new friend and i find out I'm old enough to have taught them, even though we never had that relationship.

Yeah, this just transcends the invisible line by teachers. I, too, blame the parents. wtf. Look, you don't have to be best friends with yr kids during their teen years. Its nice but not a prerequisite. Just be there for them, and hopefully pass a few nuggests of moral fortitude their way.

The parents talking about "ruining" her made me think about those women in countries where if their hyman (sp?) is broken they are considered not worthy.

what invisible line? To me, it's clearly visible.

Exactly. By invisible I mean its there but its not. It shouldn't even be something that needs explaining to teachers.

Amen to that