That's the thing I have. I'm not saying that the dog thing isn't horrible, it is. My point though is that what's the difference between a dog and a pig? If you hit or mistreat either, won't they know pain?

I'm not saying if yr diet and lifestyle includes making a chicken, veal, or other meats that yr wrong. I just think flatly saying that one species is superior over others because you had a dog named boo-boo as a kid is naive.

Far be it from me to enter a do not kill dog conversation given my record, however, I think the rabbit has some good points. The cultural aspect is key here. My Korean friend (who actually just got deported unfortunately) stated that during their version of cookouts/celebrations centered around food they have a cultural dish that is made with dog meat. Culturally speaking, dogs are food just like chicken and cows are to us.

I think that the rabbit is backing himself into a bit of a corner when he says, "...but there shouldn't be a scale as to whats worse. Killing is killing." There's too many exceptions about that.

Furthermore, what about free range animals and those that are not pumped full of hormones, etc? Is it okay to kill them? My personal carnivorous perspective is that an animal like a cow or chicken raised for ingestion don't need to be treated humane because they are not humans. The origination of humane is as follows:

"c.1450, variant of human, used interchangeably with it until early 18c., when it began to be a distinct word with sense of "having qualities befitting human beings." But inhuman still can be the opposite of humane. The Royal Humane Society (founded 1774) was originally to rescue drowning persons." (emphasis my own)

I believe it was only recently that the term "humane" has come to include subservient/domesticated animals like cows or chickens, etc. Ultimately, I think there is a line you cross with cruelty to animals and that is something to avoid at all costs. I think the issue of dogs as bait is horrendous, partially from a cultural perspective, but also because the live dog is being horribly mistreated at the time. If some country was just using dog meat for bait it'd probably be a lot less shocking to me.

this thread provides further evidence that I just don't trust vegetarians.

oh those wacky french

Well, free range is kind of a misleading title though. Not too long ago, egg producers were forced to take "free range" off of packages. Wiki has a good article that points out the problems with the title:



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_range

ok ok. But I think you probably know what I mean by free range. The chickens that are not raised in coops and locked 3 and 4 in one cage with beaks and claws removed, etc. Those farms do exist. There is one near my parent's house. Maybe "free-range" is misleading in regards to what I mean, but I still think you know what I mean.

I like meat and dogs (and would try dog meat), but I pretty much agree with FR.

yessum.

Yeah I do. There are places out there that allow the animals to live out and about before slaughter

cats tried to save this thread but you wouldn't let him. Fuckers.

I'll never get that two minutes back.

You're impeaching the journalistic integrity of national geographic? I think that hooking arrangement would work just fine, assuming that the hooks were driven through the dog's palate.

How else would you hook a dog?

Surprisingly, while there are many ways to skin a cat, the only way to hook it is straight through the eyes.

I see a HUGE difference. One is a routine way of getting poultry to market, the other is HIGH comedy. I'd pay good money if we had this on video.

i wanted to see it too
and i stumbled on a video of the opposite thing

dog vs shark - > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2jkExrrm_sQ

does that mean i owe you money?

YES, but I will accept that flamingo in the cage as partial payment.

yeah FemGAR would just love to have that in the front yard.

focus on what's important here you guys

if we don't feed dogs to sharks.... sharks will get eaten by dogs
therefore
my burger still tastes great

...
and french people suck

i want that dog.

You are all missing the worst part of this whole thing: The crazy french fishermen were catching the sharks for the dog food factory down the road!

dumb ass French. don't they know that the best bait are black infants.

well, jew infants if they want to catch dolphin.

Whoa. Speaking of black kids... I was at the MRI place today and the waiting room is like 15'X15'. Minding my own business, just me, the receptionist, a black lady and her little boy who's probably 18 months old. Good kid, really cute, running around and laughing. He stopped in the middle of the room and I was like, "Uh oh, is he going to start crying or something?" Nope. Kid took a shit. Stunk up the entire room. Me and the receptionist gagged while the mom grabbed the boy and took him to the crapper to change his disaster of a diaper.