Count me in, if there is still room. Can we not disassmble teams of deadbeats this year? That fucked me last year.

A young, brash Pete LaCock would've given you a season-long bumming, were he available to draft. Consider yourself lucky.

i'd be down if there is room

I'll pass. Just football for me.

i'm in. hey timmy, if you want any reds, you know where to find me.

BUMP..

I'm in, and I'll volounteer to be the comish.

Why does everyone not want to be the commander?

I like H2H. It gets pretty pointless to even try when you are in the basement of the other league type with weeks to go so people stop trying. In H2H there is still the fun of trying to knock some other sorry bastards out of the playoffs.

I like maybe 16 teams or so so we can make 4 divisions.

I like 9 active players (10 if we use a DH) It makes it more real. Keep players on the bench to switch in and out for their off days.

(And 5 active pitchers.)

(More teams, with less active players helps spread the best talent around and requires people to do a little more homework when selecting bench players and such.)

I think to make the league fair, we should all have a say in it's creation. So I thought we can take one suggestion from each person involved and implement it. I'll make a note of everyone's suggestions as they post them. And please, highlight your suggestion and use bold print so that it's loud and clear.

Me: I'd like to carry a total number of 25 players on each roster.
I know it's fantasy baseball but I like to use reality as a barometer on how many players each owner should have.

CURRENT OWNERS LIST & THEIR LEAGUE SUGGESTION

BENVOLIO
JIMMY STRIPE
OPA! (25 Man Rosters.)
RICK DERRIS
DUCKYBOY
HUSKERPUNK
THETWILIGHTKID
PAGODA
Z
TIMMYJOE42 (Pitchers Should Be Included In Hitting Categories.)
LAMBCHOP
NACHO (5x5 Categories, Standard or a Close Variation of Them.)
POSTMERSH
THE OBGOBLIN
PAPERTIGER
SCHADENFREUDE
THRILLHOUSE

NOTE: These are not written in stone until all suggestions are complete and agreed upon.

This is a great idea. It's also how I run my own league, as well as many others I've played in.

My suggestion would be: Use the standard 5x5 categories, or a close variation of them (runs, hr, rbi, sb, avg // wins, ks, saves, era, and whip). Subbing something like obp for avg is fine, but the most important thing is to limit the total number of categories used to around 10. The more categories you use, the more watered down the scoring becomes (each individual category becomes less important). If you use too many, it becomes impossible to figure out the best way improve your team because there are just too many variables to consider.

Actually, I jumped the gun in my previous post. I use 27 man rosters, 22 of which are in the starting lineup.

If you have 25 man rosters- how many starting position would you have?

Well, that's still to be determined and agreed upon, but I think having 8 or 9 starters (hitting) and a bench of 5 or 6 players is fine. Of course, this also depends on how many pitchers an owner decides to carry. Pitching starters can be anywhere from 10 to 12 with your bench determined by how many hitters you carry.

I would say, 10 offensive and 5 pitching starters. MAX, otherwise, it's not real.

I think the pitchers should bat.

CURRENT OWNERS LIST & THEIR LEAGUE SUGGESTION

BENVOLIO
JIMMY STRIPE
OPA! (25 Man Rosters.)
RICK DERRIS
DUCKYBOY
HUSKERPUNK
THETWILIGHTKID
PAGODA
Z
TIMMYJOE42 (Pitchers Should Be Included In Hitting Categories.)
LAMBCHOP
NACHO (5x5 Categories, Standard or a Close Variation of Them.)
POSTMERSH
THE OBGOBLIN
PAPERTIGER
SCHADENFREUDE
THRILLHOUSE

NOTE: These are not written in stone until all suggestions are complete and agreed upon.

If we're only starting 15 guys, 25 man total rosters is too big. Teams play pretty much every day (or at least 6 out of 7), and you'd never have an opportunity to play all those guys. A good rule of thumb for total roster size is the number of starters + 5 or 6.

If we have 16 or so teams, I'm fine with 10 starting hitters. I think 5 pitchers is too few, though. I'd rather see 6 or 7, so you can keep your relievers in even if a bunch of your starters are pitching that day.

In terms of "reality" there's no justification for starting only 5 pitchers. There's only one pitcher in the game at any time, so you may as well use a number that works well in conjuction with your scoring categories and size.

I think 10 hitting starters (8 position players and 2 util.) and 10 pitching starters (5 starters and 5 relievers) is fine in my oipinion.

I think 10 starting pitchers is a little much, but I'd rather have too many starters than too few.

One suggestion for starting pitcher slots I have is to use generic P slots instead of SP vs. RP slots. That way you can manage your pitching staff in any way you see fit.

You used up your one suggestion already...

damn!

KEEP IT SIMPLE


Why my passion for baseball is as strong as ever. My knowledge of the other 29 teams across baseball outside of the Bronx, is not nearly what it was 15 years ago...... The more elaborate it gets, the worse Im gonna be off......I'm just sayin...the more time consuming it is, also takes away from some of the fun for me.

ill give it a shot either way..

i don't know if it counts as a suggestion, but i like ops to be included. also, it is always annoying when a league has some overlapping categories. last year i played in one that counted ops as well as slugging on it's own.

also, only makes sense to include pitchers hitting #s if you are in an nl only league and it hardly makes any sense then anyway.

CURRENT OWNERS LIST & THEIR LEAGUE SUGGESTION

BENVOLIO
JIMMY STRIPE
OPA! (25 Man Rosters.)
RICK DERRIS
DUCKYBOY
HUSKERPUNK
THETWILIGHTKID (Keep It Simple.)
PAGODA
Z
TIMMYJOE42 (Pitchers Should Be Included In Hitting Categories.)
LAMBCHOP
NACHO (Standard 5x5 Categories, or a Close Variation of Them.)
POSTMERSH
THE OBGOBLIN
PAPERTIGER
SCHADENFREUDE
THRILLHOUSE (Include OPS as a Category.)

NOTE: These are not written in stone until all suggestions are complete and agreed upon.

ops (which is obp + slg%) is a cool stat, but how can you use it without overlapping categories? I guess it would have to be runs, rbi, sb, and ops?

And overlapping categories is really annoying, I'm with you on that.

ops is does not actually overlap with avg. given how many teams are focused on ops for talen evaluation, there are many more players in the league now similar to mark bellhorn, who strikes out a ton, but is a massive offensive weapon for my beloved sox. also, a player like barry bonds is not giving a fantasy team the full benefit of his offense without taking that obp into consideration.

further, if two hitters go 4-4 one day, one with all doubles and one with all singles, clearly the superior performer should be recognized.

lastly, ops is nice because it is an average, which levels the playing field for stats, rather than just calculating total walks or total bases. one clean stat that tells a far different story than avg.

I agree. OPS should definitely be a category. If we have a 5X5 league, OPS could take the place of SLG and OBP, and still have room for AVG., HR, RBI, SB, or what have you.