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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2007 6:03 pm 
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Speeding tickets are about to get a dramatic rise in price.

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By JAKE TAPPER
July 1, 2007


Virginians vacationing for the July 4 holiday might want to drive extra slowly and safely as of midnight Sunday morning.

Traffic fines in the state are set to rise dramatically, ranging from the $750 fine for driving without a license to the eyebrow raising $1,050 speeding ticket.

Dave Albo, a member of the Virginia House of Delegates, believes the state ran out of other options.

"I don't know what else to do except make the punishments so tough on these massive speeders that they won't do it anymore," said Albo, the author of the new legislation and a Republican from Fairfax County.

The maximum fines are for drivers who are caught going 20 miles or more over the speed limit, which is now legally considered "reckless."

Virginian Carla Watkins said the reckless behavior she sees keeps her off the roads altogether.

"That's why I walk, because I see crazy stuff," Watkins said, adding that she's more comfortable when her son rides the bus.

Alexandria, Va., police officer Patrick McGee said he supports the law, but doesn't know if it will fix that "crazy stuff" on the state's roads.

"It is going to take a while to sink into people," said McGee. "Do I think it is going to make a huge difference? No."

Indeed, the law won't apply to all drivers, just Virginians driving on Virginia's roads. Out-of-state drivers will continue to pay the standard fines. And in fact, deterring bad driving is just one of the bill's aims -- and not even necessarily the primary one.

The Virginia laws are similar to those in New Jersey, Michigan, North Carolina and Texas -- all designed to raise tens of millions of dollars for state transportation. Virginia legislators hope to raise between $65 and $80 million for transportation projects this year alone from the new fines.

Critics say that essentially makes it a regressive tax.

"It is going to slam the people at the lower economic scale, because it treats the day laborer who gets pulled over the same way it treats a doctor," said Thaddeus Furlong, a defense attorney.

Even the author of the legislation admits he speeds -- just not that much.

"I drive probably about nine miles over the speed limit," Albo said, "and I am like standing still, it is scary."

The hope is that if potential accidents aren't scary enough to deter unsafe drivers, massive fines will be.


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thanks for the update

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20mph over as reckless is bullshit. 100mph plus I can see, but 75 in a 55 ain't jack.


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Billzebub Wrote:
20mph over as reckless is bullshit. 100mph plus I can see, but 75 in a 55 ain't jack.


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20mph over as reckless is bullshit. 100mph plus I can see, but 75 in a 55 ain't jack.


Agreed....with laws like that on the books they need to change the state slogan to:

"Virginia is for ninnies"

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south pacific Wrote:
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20mph over as reckless is bullshit. 100mph plus I can see, but 75 in a 55 ain't jack.


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The cops in my town are terrible. Friends of the family got a $150 ticket for going 31 in a 25.

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People around here seem to be driving faster and doing stupider things. They go roaring by me in town, when ahead, it's clear that they won't be able to go anywhere- there's either a long line of cars, or the light is red, or...

We need to reduce our use of oil, people! :evil: SLOW DOWN!!

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there's some middle aged dude on this street that i sometimes take to and from work that's tries to stare you down if you're going more than 15 mph on that street. i drove down there at about 35 today.

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Anyone who thinks that you can go close to 55 in Alexandria is fucking insane. If you get to drive faster than 25 miles an hour I'll give you my coveted "you're full of shit" medal of honor, because that entire region is a parking lot, both for motor vehicles and ideas. Northern Virginia is on some bullshit and should either be officially renamed the Mall of the Potomoc and bulldozed for the Triple Grande Starbucks and Baby Gap that it is or simply bombed out of existence.


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Well, it's called "the abusive driver" laws. I wish I could explain to you the breadth and stupidity of some of the recent things that got passed in this state. However, this one isn't quite as bad as it sounds. From what I understand, a lot of the reports are, big surprise, blowing it out of proportion. Not that it isn't going to happen, but it is more for people who have repeated offenses in the same year. It's almost like the 3 strikes laws in CA.

I haven't had a ticket in 10 years, let's say, and I get pulled for not using my blinker when changing lanes, I am not going to get slammed with all these fines. Basically, it starts when you get misdemeanors and then if you have those you can go on and get these exorbitant civil penalties, blah blah blah.

It's pretty lame, but it's not as bad as it sounds. Just obey the laws and you're fine. Rarely do asshole cops pull you for going 65 in a 55, or even 70. At least not here in Hampton Roads.


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rparis74 Wrote:
thanks for the update


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at least in virginia they kindly tell you that you are entering the "safety corridor" and that tickets are 200-500 dollars, and then there is another sign that tells you that you are no longer in the safety corridor, so you can go 75 without sweating as nervously.

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