minus the bleak & depressing part, if at all possible i will never have a roommate again either. i love my studio and i love living by myself. i'm not even home half the time anyway so it's nice when i'm actually home to not have to deal with retarded roommates.

I'm fairly messy and sometimes inconsiderate, yet overly thoughtful, good with buying groceries and the like, and generaly easy-going as far as being a roommate goes...

That being said, I have no idea how I'd even begin to cope with living alone/without a roommate.

Aaron, I'm confused by your story.

Who is Joe? The guy you live with, or the guy that found you the place?
You found a subletter for the apartment so you don't have to live there? Isn't the new subletter going to kill you for making them live with the couple?
Are the roommates only going ot be there until April?
Where are you going to live now?

I see reading comprehension is NOT your strongpoint.

"I casually asked Joe how long they were planning on living here."
"he's a real agent and they've got some really nice places he can show me."

that confuses me.
Aaron's living with an agent who is going to show him more places?

Why did Aaron have to ask the guy how long the guy was going to be living with Aaron?

And where is Aaron going to live until school gets out?

Don't you need to get a sublet approved by the roommates or something? because it wouldn't be fair if he gets some crackhead thief.

Aaron, did you tell them why you were leaving?

joe is the guy half of the couple he's living with. joe also happens to dabble in real estate, hence "agent".

aaron isn't going to let joe be his "agent" because joe is a jackass.

aaron will be living down the street, in brooklyn, until school gets out. he found someone to sublet for that amount of time.

aaron told them he was leaving because his meth addiction comes first in his life. and he's leaving because he kinda has to leave, rather than pay for a couple weeks into march to two ignorant, engaged psychopaths.

I've always been a little rusty on racial stereotypes. Are jews known for being messy?

I'm messy in my own way, but I am certainly the most Jew-ly as well as the most clean-ly in my household. I have to wash all of our dishes just to be able to make a meal round here. My roommates rock as people but sometimes I feel like a frickin' Mom, picking up three-day old cans of Coke and bags of chips from the living room.

This is almost exactly my situation, but with gender roles switched.

I should have said "parent". Actually my roommates are 1 male, 1 female, with the female one being the worst offender in the inordinant messiness department.

Only time I ever had roommates was for my senior year in college. The other two were good friends and we got along with only the minorest of squabbles and 5 years on we're still cool with each other.

That said, I doubt I've ever have a roommate again. I needs my space and see no need to affect anyone with my messy habits.

yeah, i'm definitely the mom in my apartment. my roommate's the messiest girl ever. the floor in her room is seriously at least a layer-deep of clothing. and the kitchen should be a dmz when she's done cooking. let's not even get started on the cats that she makes every excuse for.

Never had a roommate.

Unless you count my being twice and one of the "twice" being currently, married. And I have had a small person follow me from place to place for nearly 8 years, and that's due mainly cause I birthed him.

So I guess in some ways it's like having roommates. They're both messy. And male, so that means I"m always picking up dirty underwear off the floor. Was it with guys and underwear on the floor? Is it a gender issue that those articles of clothing can never find their way to the hamper??

This is the first year I have had an apartment to myself, and it would take some serious thinking and a super opportunity to give that up. I love it! My last roomie was also very messy, which I didn't think would bother me cause I was always sort of messy, but it dod because she was messy everywhere and not just in her room. I don't care what someone's room looks like, but please don't leave your laundry sitting in my chair in the living room for 3 weeks. She did that a lot. Also, we both had 2 cats each, so 4 cats in one house was a bit much. Except mine were better than hers. Hers were mean, constantly chased mine under dressers and stuff. And one of them had this problem where if it got mad, it would pee on things. And usually that meant my things. After that cat had repeatedly peed in the recliner in my room, my chair in the den, the clothes in my hamper, my bookbag, and (a total of about 4 times) my bed, I had definitely had enough. She suggested I keep my door closed (with my cats inside). Why should I lock my cats up when hers are the ones that can't behave?? Our solution was to install a screen door in the middle of the house that divided the house in two- her cats on her side, mine on my side.

I've been roommate free since I graduated from college, and it's wonderful.

Did I say "real agent"? Oh well. When I said "I found a sublet," I meant "a room to sublet for myself." Since I don't have a lease, I don't care if they find someone to replace me for the unspecified time they remain in the apartment.

oh god, i just need to vent here.

my roommate and i haven't spoken in a few days. she's bitter that i had a friend visiting for the weekend and we didn't invite her out with us. anyway, she sent me an email this morning with a few zings about how i'm an angry person and then mentioned that she'd bought a couch that she wanted me to help her bring home. so, i responded that i certainly can be angry, but it doesn't personify me just as she can be arrogant, cranky, and selfish yet i don't always think of her as those. i also stated that i didn't know how we'd get the couch home because it won't fit in my car and it's too far to carry.

then our emails took a step up and she accused me of being an asshole and criticizing everything of hers. (this is a girl who had such a serious grudge against my filing cabinet and a lamp that she got rid of them.) she also asked for empathy and said she wasn't arrogant. then she said she'd carry the couch home herself. i admitted to having talked some trash on her beloved "sex and the city" and "monk", but nowhere to a point where it's the only thing i do. and i also said once again that i'd help with the couch before i played racquetball tonight.

she accused me again of criticizing everything of hers and asked if i was helping her pay for the couch. and she made some "woe is me" quip about me playing racquetball and not helping her with this couch. i just bought a table for us that she picked out and thought she could pay for the couch to even it out. she replied with some diatribe about how i never paid for some groceries in january and i made a short list of things (bills, groceries, etc) that i'd paid for and that she'd not paid me back for.

so, basically, we've been arguing through email all day and she finally said she didn't want any help with the couch and would do it herself, despite me saying i'd help all afternoon. and she just wants respect from me, but doesn't feel the need to return it because i'm an angry asshole that criticizes her two favorite television shows.

that's a pretty straight recap of our emails. i don't know, am i in the wrong for wanting to be done with this couch ordeal before i play racquetball? am i simply an angry asshole that refuses to help with anything? isn't it okay for me to not like those shows and say something about it when it's the only thing she watches for days?

I've got a pickup, i'll help you move the couch.

You still have my #, right?

Call quick buddy boy.

hide in the apartment and wait until she's trying to get the couch up some stairs and then push it over on her.

i love when this stuff comes out over e-mail. does she view crappy television shows as 'things that are hers"? Do you criticize anything else she owns? Niggling about the couch (which it sounds like SHE decided to buy) is just classic petty roommate bullshit. but if she's going to keep bringing up the groceries, my advice is to just keep them seperate and tell her you don't want any more of her groceries.

i just realized it's only 5-6 blocks. i wouldn't want you to come all the way up here just for that. we'll manage. thanks for the offer, though.

Dig it.

1) If I have something that needs to be done (roommate-wise, ect.), I'll cancel my personal plans. If it isn't, I'll either change their plans to suit mine, or change mine to suit theirs. You don't have to give up one for the other..

2) Possibly, but not from this example

3) It's OK for you to not like the shows, but you must make sure it's a "give and take" relationship (a.k.a. she jokes about things you like too). Harping on them isn't going to change her opinion of them, nor do you any good, if your barbs hit close to home for her, or if you're doing it too much...

She sounds sexually frustrated.

Scratch that itch.

Ah, roommates . . . this reminds me of the time that my roomie was selling dope out of my house (i.e., storing it in his bedroom) while living with his girlfriend. good times.

At least he had a girlfriend?