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So, d asked LooGAR and I to both come up with a Stones mix for her, not of songs that we thought that she would like or make the best mix, but instead of songs that sum up what their music means to us individually.

Fairly impossible and definitely the kind of thing that could turn into a multi-houred affair but I cranked this out for mine and kept it to the length of a single CD.

Tracklist:
1. Rocks Off
2. No Expectations
3. Hang Fire
4. Sway
5. Mother's Little Helper
6. Torn & Frayed
7. When The Whip Comes Down
8. She Smiled Sweetly
9. Ruby Tuesday
10. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
11. Gimme Shelter
12. Love In Vain
13. Rip This Joint
14. Tops
15. Respectable
16. Let It Loose
17. Before They Make Me Run
18. I Got The Blues
19. Dead Flowers
20. Shine A Light


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fyi, I think "When the Whip Comes Down" is a bad rip... lots of skipping.


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I actually did mine without looking at Bloor's surprisingly little overlap, but the cream rises to the top.

His opener is my closer!

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and, here's a track by track mini review:

http://eggnoodlesandketchup.blogspot.com/

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wow, now I wanna do one.

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wow, now I wanna do one.


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fyi, I think "When the Whip Comes Down" is a bad rip... lots of skipping.


Hopefully, this is better:

http://www.box.net/shared/tocfxpybsx

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thanks, Chris.... btw, I've listened to your mix once already, and am listening again today. There were some familiar songs (i.e. I didn't know the names of them, but I knew I'd heard them before) which made me smile. So... don't think I'm gonna be bashing this one automatically! I'll try and take more notes this weekend.

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okay bear in mind I haven't heard any of these songs in at least 2 weeks and I compiled this between conversations of native american acorn harvesting, I feel like this is too long for a single disc.

1) "Let's Spend the Night Together" - considering the music we grew up with, it's a bit shocking to think that this song was considered way to sexualized when it came out (and famously changing the lyric to "Let's Spend Some Time Together" for Ed Sullivan), this song is almost quaint in a just-trying-to-get-laid sort of way. Unlike
2) "Stray Cat Blues" - give 'em an inch of rope and the wanna be a cowboy, right? Less than a decade later, the bar had been set far lower. Whereas with the last song, there was a faint glimmer (ha) of an option that they were going to have a wholesome time together. Here, there is no question about it. Mick is Big Bad Wolf, licking his chops as Little Red Riding Hood comes strolling down his road. He's using Dorothy's thigh bone to pick the remains of Little Miss Muffett from his teeth.
3) "2000 Man" - I like to think - and this is strictly supposition - that this is the song on a mostly dreadful, trend-catching album where Keith just puts his foot down and even in a drug haze just bangs out a straightforward rock song.
4) "Sweet Virginia" - It's hard enough to pick one song from Side 2 of Exile, which might be my favorite 4 songs ever to appear in a row. But this would have to be it. Or one of the two.
5) "Sway" (Mono version with both vocals) - I read a whole thing once about this song, about how Charlie's drum work on this song is influenced by calypso instead of the usual jazz or something, but that means dick all to me. It all comes from the helpless shrug that this song essentially is. I can't help it. It's that demon life, baby. And it all comes to a boil when Mick just shreiks "HEY NOW" and Keith comes out of whatever dope haze he was in to nail the harmony vocal before heading back to the guitar line. Perfect.
6) "Jumpin' Jack Flash" - I think that if it weren't for "Satisfaction", this would widely be considered the greatest rock song ever recorded.
7) "Country Honk" - I'm a sucker for these poorly recorded accoustic songs. You put these guys in a circle and get 'em strummin' and I'm pretty much going to like it. I think it's easy to respect that they went back to one of their most popular songs and -thanks to Gram Parsons- re-recorded it in a completely different style. For some reason that fiddle kills me every time I hear it. I still seem to think that this was recorded in the bed of a moving pickup truck.
8) "Out of Time" - just because.
9) "100 Years Ago" - I fucking love this song. And it probably has as much to do with Billy Preston's clavichord as anything else, but this song paints such a clear picture of just how worn down these guys were around now. The Stones have always been very self-aware, but this is one those times where it's funny or wistful, this is just being tired. It's amazing that I like this song as much as I do, given this description.
10) "Before They Make Me Run" - this song justifies its own existence. Possibly my favorite songwriting of all time.
11) "Sweet Black Angel"/"Factory Girl" - Maybe it's not fair to lump these songs together but they are so similarly recorded and short that I always associate them with each other. Odes to Angela Davis and Appalachian chubb, both of which make me wish I could play something simple on a guitar. shit, even a mandolin.
12) "Saint of Me" - the glossy production and fiber tablets don't prevent this from being a fucking great rock song. And when Mick gets to "and you're burning in the flames" you remember why the rest of the guys didn't stab him a long time ago.
13) "I am Waiting" - oh yes, he will find out.
14)"Let It Bleed" - A boozed and wobbly ode to booze and companionship. It's held down by Ian Stewart's piano and a melody that practically begs you to sing out after 8 beers.
15) "Dead Flowers" - "I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon/and another girl to take my pain away". Fucking brilliant.
16) "Respectable" - The Stones realizing that they are now an institution while trying to compete with punk rock at the same time.
17) "Salt of the Earth" (Rock and Roll Circus Edition) - sort of a cheapie, because they're not even playing instruments here, a classic rock kareoke of sorts. This might be the greatest drinking song of all time, or so I thought when I was younger. But hearing this version, after they'd been working for 27 straight hours or whatever it was, you hear the exhaustion in their voice, or what's left of Mick's at this point. You can almost hear the drunken Pete Townsend dickking around with Keith Moon in the back row.


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who sings on "before they make me?" Is that Keef?


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This is a perfect thread to post this - the best stuff from the Black Box. It's all rare or alternate takes of Stones stuff. Some classics, some fuck-arounds. This is probably not the place for a Stones novice to start though.

PS: I've cribbed the song descriptions from a site on the innernets.

Best of the Black Box

1. Blue Turns To Grey An Oldham orchestrated horn induced alternate that would have fit the standard set by the other early tracks found on "Metamorphosis", but not part of that compilation. Recording date: Nov., 1963

2. As Time Goes By Alternate vocal/electric guitar take of As Tears Go By

3. Time Is On My Side Alternate take with organ intro

4. Da Doo Ron Ron Demo with Jagger and The Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra

5. Andrew's Blues Vocal by Gene Pitney. He says thank you at 2:01 when Jagger mentions his name during his vocal piece of the song. Supposedly, rare acetates of this song were made for members of the band with "Between The Buttons" like cartoons on the labels drawn by Charlie Watts

6. Con Le Mie Lacrime "As Tears Go By" sung by Jagger in Italian with added harpsichord - officially released in the Sixties on a 7" single with Picture Sleeve

7. Get Yourself Together alternate take, 1966

8. Memo From Turner (demo #2) Olympic Studios, 1968 take

9. Gimme Shelter Keith Richards vocal version

10. Jiving Sister Fanny Alternate vocal take

11. Hamburger To Go Olympic studios, Spring, 1968. A Beggars Banquet session

12. Honky Tonk Woman Studio version of the song containing the Paris verse that was only heard on early 70's live versions of the song. Also missing horn arrangements. Recorded at Olympic Studios in May-June, 1969.

13. Highway Child Recorded at Keith's house at Redlands, July, 1968.

14. Good Time Women First version of Tumbling Dice. An Olympic, Oct., 1970 recording.

15. Sway The 7" single version. A different mix and take.

16. Sister Morphine "Ready" intro version. There is an arpeggio versus strummed guitar accompaniment in the opening bars of the song. Ry Cooder shows up at 1:56 with the alternate slide arrangement.

17. Sweet Virginia Alternate take from Exile sessions.

18. Cocksucker Blues Recorded at Olympic in May, 1970.

19. Sister Morphine Original Vocal Version by co-writer Marianne Faithfull - complete with the Cooder slide and organ.

20. And Mr. Spector and Mr. Pitney Came Too Instrumental version of Andrews Blues, mostly.

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who sings on "before they make me?" Is that Keef?


yup.

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3) "2000 Man" - I like to think - and this is strictly supposition - that this is the song on a mostly dreadful, trend-catching album where Keith just puts his foot down and even in a drug haze just bangs out a straightforward rock song.
4) "Sweet Virginia" - It's hard enough to pick one song from Side 2 of Exile, which might be my favorite 4 songs ever to appear in a row. But this would have to be it. Or one of the twoded in the bed of a moving pickup truck.
8) "Out of Time" - just because.
9) "100 Years Ago" - I fucking love this song. And it probably has as much to do with Billy Preston's clavichord as anything else, but this song paints such a clear picture of just how worn down these guys were around now. The Stones have always been very self-aware, but this is one those times where it's funny or wistful, this is just being tired. It's amazing that I like this song as much as I do, given this description.
10) "Before They Make Me Run" - this song justifies its own existence. Possibly my favorite songwriting of all time.
11) "Sweet Black Angel"/"Factory Girl" - Maybe it's not fair to lump these songs together but they are so similarly recorded and short that I always associate them with each other. Odes to Angela Davis and Appalachian chubb, both of which make me wish I could play something simple on a guitar. shit, even a mandolin.
13) "I am Waiting" - oh yes, he will find out.

17) "Salt of the Earth" (Rock and Roll Circus Edition) - sort of a cheapie, because they're not even playing instruments here, a classic rock kareoke of sorts. This might be the greatest drinking song of all time, or so I thought when I was younger. But hearing this version, after they'd been working for 27 straight hours or whatever it was, you hear the exhaustion in their voice, or what's left of Mick's at this point. You can almost hear the drunken Pete Townsend dickking around with Keith Moon in the back row.


Though its a great mix on its merits, these are the ones I had trouble not putting on mine.


That version of Da Doo Ron Ron is MONGERABLE. You feel like you need a shower after hearing it.

Also, I had Blue Turns to Grey on my original tracklisting, and then realized I didn't have it. :drat:

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I thought about that one, too.

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Hey guys, I've been listening to this pretty much ad nauseum all weekend. I think I screwed up burning Gar's mix to cd, as his tracklisting doesn't match the order of the songs on the cd, so that may take some time to sort out. With the long weekend coming up, I should be able to knock out a review soon.

What I will say, so far, is that you guys have done a great job. While there are repeat songs on both your mixes (can I tell you guys are friends or what?), it's different enough to show the differences between your likes/dislikes. I'm not going to do a Bloor vs. Gar review, just because I think that's in bad form and beside the point, but Bloor's was more succinct and so far, I'm hearing the "musician's" slant on things, while Gar's is more of a "listener appreciation" take. Both sides are most appreciated.

Will you convert me to a diehard Stones fan? The likelihood is not very high, but you both already have turned me onto some songs I didn't know or wasn't as familiar with.

Let's just say this morning around 9 am, while "Under my Thumb" was playing, I was in my pj's, dancing around, cooking brekkie, while my dogs stared at me like "what the hell is WRONG with you?" That only bodes good things in d's world.


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Under My Thumb is missing from these mixes


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Under My Thumb is missing from these mixes

It's on LooGAR's.


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Rads, that shit on your mix, is that stuff from your personal collection?


If so........I mean..........speechless.


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I'm gonna add to this in a big way. The bootlegs I've grabbed lately are just sick.

The Sotheby's Reel

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The Sotheby’s Reel are Glyn John’s working tapes when he was the Stones studio producer during Let it Bleed through the Sticky Fingers sessions, the Stones classic period. The tape reel was auctioned some years ago at the famous Sotheby's London auction house and featured some different versions of great songs that serve to let the Stones crown shine brighter.


The Brussels Affair

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Brussels Affair is an unofficial live album by the Rolling Stones. The Rolling Stones 1973 European Tour showed them in top form, particularly Mick Taylor, who played extensive solos on songs like "Midnight Rambler" and "You Can't Always Get What You Want" in an exciting interplay with Keith Richards on rhythm guitar. This live recording made in Brussels on 17 October 1973 was intended for an official release. However, when the Stones left Decca/ABKCO in 1970, they made an agreement not to release any material from their stint with the label for 7 years (the amount of time they had recorded for the company). Therefore, Brussels Affair only appeared on bootlegs (such as Nasty Music and Brussels Affair). This also explains why their first post-Decca live album was not released until 1977 (Love You Live).

Many fans and critics regard these recordings as the best Rolling Stones concert recordings ever. The quality of the sound is excellent, as one would expect with a soundboard recording.


I also got 7 volumes of the Stones Unsurpassed Masters series, which have some overlap with the Black Box Rads posted, but some of them contain some really rare tracks. I've got Volume 3 posted right now and plan on upping the rest soon.

This was the Stones mix I put together awhile ago, kind of slowcore thing great for the late night. I've actually got a kind of mid-tempo thing going on the next one. A couple of cuts, like tracks 4 and 11, are from the bootlegs mentioned above. I like the latter one with Mick's vocals.

1. Let It Loose
2. Far Away Eyes
3. Memory Motel
4. Blood Red Wine
5. Sister Morphine
6. Coming Down Again
7. Till the Next Goodbye
8. Blinded By Rainbows
9. Fool To Cry
10. Wild Horses
11. You Got The Silver
12. Shine A Light
13. Down In The Hole
14. Thief In The Night
15. Thru And Thru
16. Moonlight Mile

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I apologize profusely gentlemen, for not having gotten a review up sooner. It's been a crazy few days, and very little time or energy to focus on this. And that's what I'd need to do to make it happen-- FOCUS. I will say that I've been listening to the mixes while getting ready in the morning, or cleaning, or whatnot.

What can I say so far?

re: Loog's mix... I really like:
19th nervous breakdown
Mother's Little Helper
Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Shattered - it actually sounds incredibly goofy, but I couldn't help dancing to that one, haha
Hang Fire - duh
Rocks Off
Under My Thumb - methinks just because I like this one so much, I'd be more geared towards the mid 60s stuff... that's when this came out, right?
Let's Spend the Night Together

Song I can't abide by:
Cherry Oh Baby-- good LORD what were you smoking when you put this one on? haha

re: Bloor's mix
I really dig:
1. Rocks Off
3. Hang Fire
4. Sway
5. Mother's Little Helper
8. She Smiled Sweetly
9. Ruby Tuesday
10. Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
11. Gimme Shelter
14. Tops

Haven't really developed full-on opinions so far, but I gotta say, you guys did a great job. You forced me to listen to this in a different way, and while there were repeats, they were both solid mixes.


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i'm obviously not the stones aficianado that some of you here are, but...no love for can't you hear me knocking?


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i'm obviously not the stones aficianado that some of you here are, but...no love for Monkey Man?

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i'm obviously not the stones aficianado that some of you here are, but...no love for all of the hundreds of Stones songs that couldn't fit on an 80 minute mix?


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