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Clemens is
Poll ended at Mon Feb 18, 2008 7:59 am
guilty 95%  95%  [ 39 ]
innocent 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
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i got to watch a lot of this today, he's guilty.

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clemens lol

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I get the feeling that he's gonna throw at Congress; each and every one as they step up to the plate.

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y'all are nuts, innocent as a lamb


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I think he's guilty as sin.

I think McNamee is credible but let's just say that Clemens' team of lawyers have plenty to work with to try and discredit him. The whole thing is just fucking annoying. He said she said finger pointing with everything getting more muddled by the day, which is by design.

I will say that Clemens has taken his high priced laywers, PR team, and endless funds to bully and fight all of this and if he's found to have lied at that hearing then he should go to jail just like Marion Jones.


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guilty

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i find it really wrong that he's been allowed to personally lobby congress/schmooze around the capitol building

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stupid Red Sox. :)

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I can't believe he hasn't been nailed for witness tampering for talking to the Canseco's nanny.


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I can't believe he hasn't been nailed for witness tampering for talking to the Canseco's nanny.


It's not Canseco's nanny, it's his own former one.

And yeah, he's probably guilty of something.


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I'm having fun picturing this Jose Canseco Pool Party. Sounds like a SNL skit.

I'm picturing scenes from Boogie Nights with coke substituted with various growth hormones & performance enchancing drugs.

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neuroboy Wrote:
i find it really wrong that he's been allowed to personally lobby congress/schmooze around the capitol building


here's some highlights from the nyt article on 12Feb. . .

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". . . these are the people who will decide whether Clemens is lying with his denials or McNamee is lying with his allegations. They are judge and jury when it comes to deciding if the case should be referred to the Justice Department for possible perjury charges. Yet they welcomed Clemens into their sanctuaries to meet and greet — and to have staff members get autographs and have pictures taken with Clemens, the seven-time Cy Young Award winner. Imagine a murder trial in a state or federal court. A jury is selected, and in the days before the trial is scheduled to begin, the defendant meets privately with the jurors."

". . .But Edolphus Towns made it seem inappropriate after his half-hour meeting with Clemens. A Democratic representative from Brooklyn, Towns emerged from the meeting a Clemens supporter, saying he had essentially concluded that Clemens was believable and that McNamee, whom he had not met with, was weird."


let's all remember that whoever is eventually found to be the liar could potentially go to prison.

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I think this poll needs a third option: fucked.


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I thought "Red Eye" was pretty funny with the exploding head gag.


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some guy in the boston herald had a pretty good line today.

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Now comes the hard part for this right-wing zealot: The Republicans could have shown up with big bozo shoes and clown noses and they would not have looked sillier. They were uninformed, unprofessional, and hopelessly star struck. They carried themselves with less dignity than Dr. Phil. They did everything but hang Ks from the wall when Clemens completed a sentence.

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retiring?

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who are the dummies who voted innocent?

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who are the dummies who voted innocent?


even I voted Guilty.

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shiv Wrote:
who are the dummies who voted innocent?


I don't think this poll is serious and neither was my vote, dummy. :wink:


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sure it serious, it's all about public perception. after i listen to sportscenter i thought Roger got off until i watched most of it myself.

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And it was out in the open that it became Democrat against Republican. Waxman said he was shocked at the partisan nature of the hearing, with Democrats, for the most part, grilling Clemens, while Republicans lambasted McNamee. “I was disappointed to see that kind of partisanship, and I can’t understand it,” Waxman said.

Waxman said Davis and Mark Souder of Indiana were the only Republicans on the committee who actually read through the depositions that were filed last week. Souder was also one of the few committee members who refused Clemens’s request for a private meeting before the hearing. And it was Souder who stood out from his Republican colleagues by stating during the hearing that the depositions were “fairly devastating” against Clemens.

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Report: Man has photo of Clemens at disputed Canseco party

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The 1998 party at Jose Canseco's house in Miami may have started out as a gathering of friends and family. It has turned into an event worthy of congressional testimony and a source of "evidence."

There is a photo of Roger Clemens at Canseco's house during the June 1998 party, according to the New York Daily News -- a photo that would contradict Clemens' sworn testimony that he never attended the party.

Richard Emery, one of the lawyers for Clemens' former trainer, Brian McNamee, said he was aware of the existence of the photo. "We have reason to believe it's reliable evidence," Emery told the Daily News. "We believe there's photographic evidence that shows Clemens was at a party he says he wasn't at."

The event is a key point in the steroids investigation involving Clemens. It is mentioned in the Mitchell report, and was a focal point during the Feb. 13 hearing before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.

In the Mitchell report, Brian McNamee, Clemens' former trainer, said he witnessed Canseco, Clemens and a third, unidentified person talking together, but did not overhear the conversation. McNamee said that some time after the party, "Clemens approached [him] and, for the first time, brought up the subject of using steroids," according to the report.

The crux of the issue is whether Clemens was present at the party, which was hosted by Canseco for his Toronto Blue Jays teammates and their families while they were in town for a series against the Florida Marlins.

Clemens has repeatedly denied being at Canseco's house for that event. But a young man has a photo of Clemens at the party, according to the Daily News. The man was just 11 years old at the time of the party, taking photos of various baseball players.

McNamee has testified that he clearly recalls Clemens, his wife, nanny and children at Canseco's party, including describing the nanny as wearing a peach bikini and board shorts.

Clemens' lawyer, Rusty Hardin, has said he turned over evidence to congressional lawyers, including an affidavit from Canseco, proving Clemens didn't attend Canseco's party.

The House committee is still debating on the next step regarding the steroids investigation. Sources have told the Daily News that they expect the committee to refer the entire matter, not just the Clemens investigation, to the Justice Department.

"We haven't heard anything one way or the other," Hardin told the Daily News.

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haha, you just knew something like this would happen.

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The Daily News has learned that in the days since the Feb. 13 public hearing on steroids in baseball, another major leaguer has informed congressional investigators that Clemens often joked in the clubhouse about a memorable account of the party - a scene in which Debbie Clemens and Canseco's ex-wife Jessica compared the results of their surgical breast enhancements.


He has fake muscle, she has fake boobs. Yay American dream!


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