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Been meaning to watch that On Demand/Payperview.

I was bored last weekend and watched "No Way Out" with Costner, Hackman, and Sean Young. Oh and ol Fred Thompson.

I've always heard that it was pretty good. I don't think it's held up well. Some dated 80's production and "thriller" music. Also, the Russian spy stuff sounds dated as well and if you didn't grow up with that Cold War paranoia it wouldn't mean much now. I'm sure that last revelation in the movie must've been the huge curveball at the time but it didn't resonate with me now like it would've back then probably.

Not horrible though. Sean Young looking good, pre-Batman meltdown.

Apparently Hackman just revised this role in Eastwood's "Absolute Power" years later.


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I watched The Heartbreak Kid (Stiller version...I know I know) out of morbid curiosity yesterday and it wasn't awful. Some nice nudity from Sloane from Entourage and Michelle Monaghan is cute as a pailful of kittens.

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I saw Juno last Friday and thought it was alright. The dialogue was a little "over-written" and snappy, but I got used to it after the first few minutes. I liked a lot of the characters and some of the lines, but in the end it just seemed sort of empty. Kind of the same way I felt about Ghost World after seeing it in the theater.


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It has only been recently that I've delved back into the world of Nirvana. I put them away for quite a bit of time, sold all of their albums (except Bleach), and moved on. This fake idol worship of a man, who put out ok records at best, really didn't strike a chord with me. As an educated music fan, I understood the implications of Nirvana, but for anything past '94 I could've cared less.

Well, its been a number of years and the trains are on time for a biopic, and an obscene amount of Kurt Cobain merchandise hitting Spencer's inventory. Maybe this is how my parents felt when I wore a Hendrix shirt?

I never read Michael Azerrad's book. I never read Kurt's diaries/journal. It just always seemed inappropriate.

When I heard about this documentary, I'm not going to lie--I had no interest in seeing it. I presupposed that it was going to be the normal talking head doc with advertised "unseen" footage, etc. I read more about it, and found out the premise. Take pre-existing Cobain interview snippets, attach them to "god shot" footage of where is lived, and try to make a rough outline of the man, so many people call an alternogod. The premise/execution interested me more than the topic.

Yesterday I received this in the mail from Netflix. It was 2am and I couldn't sleep, having been awoken by my neighbor and his friends. I left my wife in bed, and retreated the couch. Hunkered down with a leftover Calzone, and pressed play.

I'm not sure why biopics are made when films like this exist. They tell a story so much more brilliantly than a dramatic film could even hope to touch upon. Biopics tend to be vehicles to establish its star, to say "oh how they captured the spirit of xxx." With a doc in this nature, there is no way to capture the spirit other than from the spirits own mouth, which instantly leads to a credible vessel.

The filmmakers are a sly bunch. They start the film with a quote from Cobain saying how uneventful, how everyman his life is. He cannot fathom why someone would be interested in his life, when all his life he just wanted to fit in. Obviously the ironic point being, he was anything but ordinary, and yes, many people will, in fact, find his life interesting.

You understand the premise. Kurt talking. Yes. But what makes this film work on a greater level is the cinematography. Its really quite mesmerizing and beautiful. They have seemingly found the beauty in a very decaying area of the country. The Pacific Northwest is gorgeous with its trees, and waterways, but then there are the bitter, industrial wastelands that is the logging industry. Somehow through all the slopbucket, sawdust encrusted streets, the camera lens found little shining rays of beauty to withhold, and that's only Kurt's formative years.

Obviously there is an inherent danger to this doc. You could at any moment wander into the pillar building business. Luckily for us viewers, we are grounded systematically with lifestyle shots of residents of various towns (Olympia, Aberdeen, etc). These go perfectly in grounding Kurt into a regular resident of the towns. You can only imagine him walking the streets, passing these unsuspecting people.

Another great element was the soundtrack. Once again, this could've been stuffed with Nirvana songs that roughly made sense in the timeline of Cobain's life. Instead, we're treated with time-appropriate songs, and wonderful music of Ben Gibbard and Steve Fisk.

About A Son leaves you with a trace of understanding of Cobain. But take it with a grain of salt. Even a 90 minute, straight-from-the-horses-mouth doc can't even begin to sum up Cobain's or anyone's existence. It is however an intelligent look at a man who was thrusted into a leadership role of an entire generation by the media. It's also a beautifully shot and edited piece of work that stands against itself and despite being about Cobain, never uses him as a crutch.



I just watched this with my parents and it kind of blew me away. Not so much because it was great filmmaking (although it WAS very good, and like you said, did so much more than a biopic would), but mostly because it's fucking scary how similar Kurt Cobain and I are in terms of world views. I honestly felt like I was listening to my inner thoughts for 80% of the comments he made. It was especially surprising because I've never particularly related to the music - I love Bleach to death, but was never really obsessed with any of the others.

I really wish I had watched it alone, though. My parents played up the whole martyr aspect of his life, shaking their heads in "dissapointment" whenever he'd talk about his heroin addiction or suicidal thoughts. I feel like anyone who reacts similarly is exactly the type of "superficial" spoiled, starfucking-American person that Kurt denounces through a lot of the first half.

Overall, it was much better than I thought it would be, and will probably be something I watch again every couple years when I'm in the right mood.


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in the past week i've watched...

Le Petit Lieutenant - decent french cop film with a semi-big shocker halfway though.

Beowulf - looked amazing but i really didn't care about any of the characters.

In The Valley Of Elah - decent but tommy lee jones was really annoying in this.

8MM 2 - haha i really just had it on while i was reading comics. truly awful.

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War - starring jason statham and jet li

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Chaos - starring jason statham and wesley snipes

watch War.

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Luckily, I'm pretty goddamn positive it'll never come down to that for me.


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I watched "Gone, Baby, Gone" last night. It's got Casey Affleck in the lead and was directed by Ben Affleck.

It's a decent flick, it was worth the rental.


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Eastern Promises - Better than A History of Violence, which I didn't like. I really don't think Viggio is a good actor. Or maybe just doesn't have enough range. Overall, I enjoyed it but I wouldn't rush out to see it.


I thought Viggo was awesome in this.


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I watched "Gone, Baby, Gone" last night. It's got Casey Affleck in the lead and was directed by Ben Affleck.


What is this film of which you speak? I do not think we have heard about it.



I finally saw There Will Be Blood on Sat. It was great. I didn't get into it quite as much as No Country, but the characters in TWBB were much stronger, I think.


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I watched "Gone, Baby, Gone" last night. It's got Casey Affleck in the lead and was directed by Ben Affleck.


What is this film of which you speak? I do not think we have heard about it.


Please, please, please, avoid that film at all costs. It's probably in my bottom 10 of the decade.


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I watched "Gone, Baby, Gone" last night. It's got Casey Affleck in the lead and was directed by Ben Affleck.


What is this film of which you speak? I do not think we have heard about it.


Please, please, please, avoid that film at all costs. It's probably in my bottom 10 of the decade.


I saw it. That was sarcasm.

I thought it was alright. Better than Mystic River, but that's not saying a lot.


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I just watched The King Of Kong...loved it!

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I just watched The King Of Kong...loved it!


Watched that last week and loved it as well.


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movies i have rented that i loved

death at a funeral - comedy
gone baby gone - crime/drama

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hard target has got to be the most ridiculous van damme movie has put out.

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finally watched Darjeeling Limited. I stand by my indifferent shrug.


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hard target has got to be the most ridiculous van damme movie has put out.


really? what about that one where he's fighting Powers Boothe on top of the igloo in Pittsburgh?

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-The Darjeeling Limited - meh
-30 Days Of Night - Better then I expected, however, the high speed camera shots are starting to get old with horror films
-Original Gangster - Enjoyed it
-King Kong (P. Jackson) - I wish I would have seen this at the theater.
King Of Kong - Excellent


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Drinky Wrote:
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I watched "Gone, Baby, Gone" last night. It's got Casey Affleck in the lead and was directed by Ben Affleck.


What is this film of which you speak? I do not think we have heard about it.


Please, please, please, avoid that film at all costs. It's probably in my bottom 10 of the decade.


I saw it. That was sarcasm.


Heh...whoops. I only read your first sentence and missed the sarcasm entirely.


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finally watched Darjeeling Limited. I stand by my indifferent shrug.


shiv Wrote:
hard target has got to be the most ridiculous van damme movie has put out.


really? what about that one where he's fighting Powers Boothe on top of the igloo in Pittsburgh?


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that should do it.

but also, lance henriksen playing the piano like a maniac and van damme standing on a dirtbike and driving headfirst into a ford bronco, flipping over it and then shooting and blowing it up.

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-30 Days Of Night - Better then I expected, however, the high speed camera shots are starting to get old with horror films

King Of Kong - Excellent


Agree with both.

One of the vampires in 30 Days of Night really scared me. Think it was the guy with the really round head. Ick. But Ben Foster's character made me laugh every time he opened his mouth. What a voice.


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the high speed camera shots started to get old in horror movies like ten years ago. that shit just annoys me now.

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the high speed camera shots started to get old in horror movies like ten years ago. that shit just annoys me now.


It reminds me that I'm old. Or that I've done too many drugs. I just can't keep up.


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It reminds me that I'm old. Or that I've done too many drugs. I just can't keep up.


it just makes me wanna fake seizures to get out of seeing those crappy, crappy movies.

back in my day, shitty horror flicks at least used fun and exciting ways to gut naked teens. Now it's all bullshit sound effects, singing children, and stupid fast camera work that does nothing. Congratulations, you just made a movie that is trying to be Saw IV.

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