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Hmmm....pay for the bailout by legalizing pot and taxing the hell out of it. That way we won't care when we're all broke.

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Why Aren't Americans Buying the Bailout?


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so I still don't get this whole thing...couldn't we have avoided this if we just legalized weed and taxed the shit out of it?

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so I still don't get this whole thing...couldn't we have avoided this if we just legalized weed and taxed the shit out of it?


If the Libertarian party could get its act together, this would be a real possibility. Of course, they'd never go for a government financed bailout so the money would probably be used for something else.

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so I still don't get this whole thing...couldn't we have avoided this if we just legalized weed and taxed the shit out of it?


If the Libertarian party could get its act together, this would be a real possibility. Of course, they'd never go for a government financed bailout so the money would probably be used for something else.


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so I still don't get this whole thing...couldn't we have avoided this if we just legalized weed and taxed the shit out of it?


If the Libertarian party could get its act together, this would be a real possibility. Of course, they'd never go for a government financed bailout so the money would probably be used for something else.


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Why? Most Libertarian candidates think pot should be legalized. They have plenty of ideas I disagree with them on but this is one I think like.

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Oh, it's a good "idea", and I thought so even before I smoked (I debated the issue in high school) but it will NEVER be legalized.


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Oh, it's a good "idea", and I thought so even before I smoked (I debated the issue in high school) but it will NEVER be legalized.


my question isn't whether it will or won't...I'm just asking if this were to happen...couldn't it help?

hookers too.

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Oh, it's a good "idea", and I thought so even before I smoked (I debated the issue in high school) but it will NEVER be legalized.


Yeah it will. Its still 10-15 years away, but its going to happen after these boomers start dying off. It may even happen sooner if we actually see a depression. Most of the people I talk to in my generation and earlier really don't care much either way--eventually we'll do it just to shut people up and collect the tax revenue. I think the only reason why we wouldn't is because we got so self-righteous that we banned cigarettes, gambling and alcohol.

The times don't change fast, but they are a-changin. For crying out loud, how many of your parents and grandparents thought they'd see a black president in their lifetime? Its not just possible this year, its getting increasingly likely.

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shit, you don't even need to completely legalize drugs.

legalize weed and blow for 2 consecutive weekends in NY and LA and we'll be half way there.

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If you're curious, you can check your bank's stability ratings here:

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/safesound/ss_home.asp


Bankrate.com Star Rating: ****
Safe & Sound CAEL Rating: 2

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The most desirable Safe & Sound CAEL rating is one, the least desirable is five, in accordance with industry standards. Bankrate.com has reversed this order in its graphic rankings for easy visual recognition. The top star rating is five, the lowest star rating is one.

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mugwump67 Wrote:
If you're curious, you can check your bank's stability ratings here:

http://www.bankrate.com/brm/safesound/ss_home.asp


Bankrate.com Star Rating: ****
Safe & Sound CAEL Rating: 2

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The most desirable Safe & Sound CAEL rating is one, the least desirable is five, in accordance with industry standards. Bankrate.com has reversed this order in its graphic rankings for easy visual recognition. The top star rating is five, the lowest star rating is one.

Yeah, mine too. I'm content.

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So What Happens Next?

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* Hank Paulson & Co. survey the banking industry and decide who will stay and who will go. JP Morgan (JPM), Citi (C), Wells Fargo (WFC), and Bank of America (BAC) will stay. Goldman (GS) will probably stay. Morgan Stanley (MS) might stay. Everyone else in trouble could go. The government doesn't need to save all banks. It just needs to save some.

*Within a month or two, Paulson buys $250 billion of worthless assets. He pays more than market value, but not an egregious amount more (because the public will be watching these early rounds). Over the next six months, he buys $700 billion of assets...and then he--or his successor--asks Congress for more money.

* Confidence improves modestly, but banks continue to hoard capital and credit markets stay tight. Loans stay expensive and hard to get. This keeps pressure on the economy.

*The credit crunch filters through to consumers: Credit cards, home equity loans, mortgages, car loans, etc., get more expensive, putting more pressure on consumers and forcing them to cut back further.

*The economic news continues to get worse: American consumers continue to pull back, housing continues to fall (as of July, the year over year declines were still accelerating), companies begin to cut back, which leads to layoffs--which puts more pressure on consumers.

* The global economy continues to weaken: Europe, Asia, and, eventually, emerging markets. This is already happen, and everyone else is later in the cycle than we are.

* The stock market continues to fall, as corporate earnings come under increasing pressure and hope for an early 2009 recovery fades. Analysts are still expecting huge growth in S&P 500 earnings for next year. These estimates will get cut by at least a third.

* The government enacts further measures to try to stop the fall in asset prices (stocks, houses)--including an expansion of the bailout plan--but these don't work. Governments always try to do this. They never succeed. All they do is delay the inevitable.

* A new round of white-collar prosecutions send a new posse of corporate villains to jail. Some will be guilty. Some won't. All will be hated.

* The government announces a new New Deal, finally investing in the country's infrastructure, in the hopes that this will stimulate the economy (which it will). Investments include broadband, green tech, wireless, physical infrastructure, et al.

* Eventually, asset prices will bottom: Housing down 40% in real terms, the stock market down at least 50%. With luck, this will happen by early 2010, so the recovery can begin. Warren Buffett loads the boat with stocks, but by that time, most people are too depressed (and poor) to follow him.

*Unlike Japan, we finally force our banks to write down assets as far as they need to be written down...and then recapitalize them. This is what we should have done in the current bailout, but we'll get it right next time (we hope).

*We gradually begin a long-term economic recovery, one in which consumers save a greater percentage of income, thrift and saving again become admirable qualities, we gradually begins to wean itself off international oil, and the bacchanalian decades of the 1990s and 2000s become an embarrassing memory.

* The stock market finally begins a new, long-term bull market, in which stocks once again return 10%+ per year. Unfortunately, most Americans will be so sickened by the stock losses they've sustained since 2000 that they'll miss many years of it.


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F**k You, Dave Wrote:
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Oh, it's a good "idea", and I thought so even before I smoked (I debated the issue in high school) but it will NEVER be legalized.


my question isn't whether it will or won't...I'm just asking if this were to happen...couldn't it help?

hookers too.


It's utter nonsense that liquor which puts people in death defying stupor is legal and pot is not. This is one of the stupider f*cking laws of the usa.


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F**k You, Dave Wrote:
discostu Wrote:
Oh, it's a good "idea", and I thought so even before I smoked (I debated the issue in high school) but it will NEVER be legalized.


my question isn't whether it will or won't...I'm just asking if this were to happen...couldn't it help?

hookers too.


It's utter nonsense that liquor which puts people in death defying stupor is legal and pot is not. This is one of the stupider f*cking laws of the usa.

id vote to legalize weed if in exchange we could ban 4:20 shirts, hemp sandals, and hackey sacks

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October 1, 2008: Kaptur and DeFazio Propose the No BAILOUTS Act

Representatives Marcy Kaptur (D-OH), Peter DeFazio (D-OR), Rush Holt (D-NJ) proposed an alternative measure, the No BAILOUTS Act, to address the financial situation without bailing out Wall Street and corporate executives.

http://www.kaptur.house.gov/index.php?o ... 7&Itemid=1

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id vote to legalize weed if in exchange we could ban 4:20 shirts, hemp sandals, and hackey sacks


amen to that!

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id vote to legalize weed if in exchange we could ban 4:20 shirts, hemp sandals, and hackey sacks


amen to that!


thirded...

but what about hookers? republicans seem to be fond of them, can't we get a temporary lift on the ban?

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F**k You, Dave Wrote:
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id vote to legalize weed if in exchange we could ban 4:20 shirts, hemp sandals, and hackey sacks


amen to that!


thirded...

but what about hookers? republicans seem to be fond of them, can't we get a temporary lift on the ban?


Certainly seems like we could. We'd be able to support Social Security forever if we just legalized pot and prostitution. I don't know what they're waiting for.

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Since the economy hasn't collapsed like all the experts were warning it would, do we still need the bailout?


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