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I'll wait for the download I guess?


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More info and hope for those who don't or won't have Blu-ray.

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Forever Young
Neil Young's Long-Promised Archive
Is Actually in the Works
And Coming Out on Blu-ray
By ETHAN SMITH
May 16, 2008; Page W7

Since the 1980s, Neil Young has been telling fans he is close to releasing an exhaustive, interactive archive of music, photographs, video footage and other material from his storied career.

The project has achieved legendary status in the music world, not for the music it contains but because it has never surfaced, despite Mr. Young's periodic promises. The Canadian rocker has attributed the serial delays to technical shortcomings and sound-quality problems in media ranging from CD-ROMs to DVDs.

Last week, he announced his most concrete plans yet for the long-awaited project, using a medium few people can play and fewer still associate with music: Blu-ray. Sony's next-generation, high-resolution DVD recently won a format war against Toshiba's HD-DVD.

Mr. Young's first, five-disc installment is due this fall, probably in October, and is to cover his career from 1963 to 1972.

Among the memorabilia and artifacts to be digitally reproduced are letters from Mr. Young to his parents while on tours with his first band, the Squires, and business records. Some gigs in bars and high-school gyms around Canada paid the Squires as little as 10 Canadian dollars apiece.

"It's a life," says Elliot Roberts, Mr. Young's manager. "It's a biography. You see what he's writing about and the development of his writing."

Larry Johnson, the project's producer, says the first installment is to include about 128 songs, 18 of them never released before. There are to be 200 photographs, 160 lyrics manuscripts and more. Among the 90 articles and reviews are some less-than-favorable ones. "There were a lot of choices to be made," Mr. Roberts says. "Neil's choice was to leave the warts on."


Mr. Young has long been one of the audiophiles, including Bob Dylan, who complain about the sound quality of CDs, saying it is inferior to that of vinyl records and the reel-to-reel tape still used in some recording studios. Mr. Young's "Archives" is the first major use of Blu-ray as an audio medium. (Other performers, including Céline Dion and Shakira, have released concert videos on BD, or Blu-ray Disc.)

Even DVDs, which theoretically offer higher-quality sound than CDs, have drawbacks, Mr. Young said last week in San Francisco during a public unveiling of "Archives Volume 1." The event was hosted by Sun Microsystems, whose Java programming platform is used in the Blu-ray format.

"It wasn't really quite good enough," Mr. Young said of DVD sound quality. "You couldn't go through the archival materials and listen to the high-res music at the same time, which is what I thought that most of my users would want to do." Blu-ray's audio "sampling rate," a key factor in digital-sound quality, is more than four times higher than that of a standard CD.

Mr. Johnson, who has worked with Mr. Young since the two met at Woodstock, says the rocker talks of "Archives" as a near compulsion. Thanks to his love-hate relationship with technology, Mr. Young has obsessed over the project for years but had been unwilling or unable to complete it. "When we get it out," Mr. Johnson says, "he won't have to think about it anymore."

In Blu-ray, Mr. Young found a medium that resolved his two main problems, thanks to higher-quality audio and an animated, on-screen interface he says is "sort of like a videogame." The format addresses other issues, too. For instance, a purportedly exhaustive undertaking like "Archives" is bound to leave out material that surfaces later, or for which there isn't room. Thanks to a feature called BD-Live, Mr. Young and his collaborators can add material later, via Internet download, which can be stored on a hard drive in the Blu-ray player itself, where it will appear to a user as though it were part of the disc.

Still, not many fans own Blu-ray players. According to Sony, there are around six million Blu-ray players in North America, more than half of them in the company's PlayStation 3 videogame systems. (That's equal to 0.8% of the 750 million CD players, including those built into PCs, in North American homes and vehicles, according to the Consumer Electronics Association.) At the Sun Microsystems event, Mr. Young reminded the audience of the PlayStation tie-in. "Those PS3s are available everywhere," Mr. Young said. "Music lovers should take note."

Cheerleading aside, Mr. Young is in discussions with his label, Reprise Records, to release two later versions of the set, one on DVD and another on CD. Mr. Roberts, his manager, says users will inevitably make their own lower-resolution copies for use in cars or iPods. "It'll be copied down to [CD] anyhow, and it'll be even worse quality" than commercially released CDs.

Peter Standish, senior vice president for marketing at Reprise and its sister label, Warner Bros., says the company is working out how best to balance Mr. Young's concern with sound quality against the reality that few consumers can listen to Blu-ray discs. "We want to do right by Neil and by his fans," Mr. Standish says. "We're still formulating a decision" about whether and when to release the set on DVD and CD. As for plans to issue Blu-ray music releases for other artists, the executive adds, "It hasn't come up yet, but why not?"


The track record for physical music formats that purport to improve on CDs has been mixed at best, even as digital downloading has taken off. An alphabet soup of would-be successors have come and mostly gone without making a commercial dent. It's unclear whether a Blu-ray music disc can gain traction where SACD, HDCD, CDVU-Plus, DualDisc and DVD-A have not.

Among the material Mr. Young's fans might find in the first batch of "Archives" updates are songs by the Mynah Birds, a mid-'60s outfit that featured Mr. Young and Rick James, the late funk pioneer in his pre-"Super Freak" days. Although Mr. Young has Mynah Birds recordings stored at his ranch in Northern California, he left them out of "Archives." "He felt it wasn't really part of his body of work," Mr. Johnson says. "It may be something we add later."

"Archives" isn't the only material Mr. Young has recently dusted off. Last year, he released the long-awaited "Live at Massey Hall 1971," featuring early concert versions of songs such as "Old Man" and "Cowgirl in the Sand."

Mr. Young's collaborators say they are at work on volumes two through five of "Archives." Among the gems set for inclusion in the second volume is footage of Mr. Young jamming in a Northern California Chinese restaurant-cum-nightclub with an early incarnation of the band Devo.

The footage includes some of the "warts" the rocker has opted to leave in. Devo's punked-out fans, apparently unimpressed by Mr. Young's legendary status, mocked him with a play on his name, according to Mr. Johnson, who filmed the episode. He recalls with a laugh that they welcomed Mr. Young to the stage chanting, "Real Dung!"

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Thanks for the update Chuck.

Record labels have a long history of fucking things up that initially sound great, so I wouldn't count on a CD or DVD version of the archive showing up too soon.

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Record labels have a long history of fucking things up that initially sound great, so I wouldn't count on a CD or DVD version of the archive showing up too soon.


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No vinyl release still? Come on Neil! Fuck the future. Nothing good has happened since the past.


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Archives at the end of January?

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Neil Young Opens Up the Vaults With Crazy Horse Disc, Box Set
Plus: Hits-packed tour rolls on; classic solo concert gets released


Posted Nov 27, 2008 11:05 AM

I'm spending about half my time on music and family," Neil Young says from a stop on his current arena tour. The rest is devoted to converting a 1959 Lincoln Continental into an experimental superefficient car — but even at half capacity, he's getting a lot of music out there. With a massive box set a few months away, Young is also preparing to put out a revelatory 1968 solo acoustic album and a Crazy Horse disc that's been shelved since 2000.

On the road, Young has been playing his most hits-packed sets in years, with a versatile band that can channel the ragged, fuzzed-out energy of Crazy Horse (on tunes like "Hey Hey, My My (Into the Black)" and "Cinnamon Girl") as well as the hushed acoustic vibe of Harvest-era gems ("Old Man," "Heart of Gold"). "I haven't done a tour like this in 15 years," says Young. "With this band, there's no limit to what kind of music I can make." The players all go back at least 20 years with Young and include pedal steel legend Ben Keith, bassist Rick Rosas and drummer Chad Cromwell. "My other bands were always one thing or another," says Young. "This band can handle anything."

Rolling Stone sat down with Young and got the scoop on his upcoming projects.


Sugar Mountain
Due Out December 2nd

When Young left the Buffalo Springfield in 1968, he hit the road for a series of intimate acoustic gigs. This disc, recorded in a coffeehouse in Ann Arbor, Michigan, is the third in his Archives series of material related to the box set. During the show, Young breaks out killer stripped-down versions of Springfield classics like "Mr. Soul" and "On the Way Home" — in addition to early solo gems like "The Old Laughing Lady," "Last Trip to Tulsa" and an instrumental sketch that eventually becomes "Winterlong." "You can hear where it all started from," says Young. "It's so raw and real. There's very little damage. It's very pure."

Toast
Due Out TBD

Eight years ago, Young cut an entire disc of new material with Crazy Horse, only to abandon it just before it was done. "I didn't like it when I first made it," Young says. He likes the album now: "It's a mind-blowing record, very moody, kind of jazzy. The whole thing has got a massive sound." Young has mastered the disc's 5.1 surround sound and plans to release it in the near future. But even if there's a new Crazy Horse record, will there be a tour? "Maybe," says Young, sounding uncertain. "I'm not thinking about that right now."


Archives Vol. 1
Due Out January 27th

After more than 20 years, the first volume of Young's career-spanning box set is finally coming out. The 10-disc set (available in Blu-ray for $432 or DVD for $345, and eventually in CD and download formats) is built around an interactive timeline that allows users to access hundreds of hours of audio and video, ranging from Young's high school band through 1972's Harvest. "There's photos, there's original lyrics, there's all the materials that make up a career," says Larry Johnson, the set's producer. So when is Vol. 2 due? "Now that we've done the format," says Young, "it'll be quicker."

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2009 is starting to look great.


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Hey doesn't that live disc come out tomorrow?


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Hey doesn't that live disc come out tomorrow?


December 2nd, at least up here.

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Yeah, OK. Same here. Just as well since I won't really have an opportunity to pick it up this week.


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Is "Sugar Mountain" circulating?


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J, is this the bootleg version I got yesterday (the one with 20+ tracks) or the official release? I'm just run by and pick it up this week.


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this has 23 tracks, but in comparing tracklist to amazon, i think they just seperated out the intro's and between-song banter as seperate tracks here. the actual songs match up.

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So the answer to my question is "Yes". It's nice to have that version and the "official" version once I buy it.


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agreed. it's en route to me via amazon right now.

i wasn't sure what you had meant by "bootleg"...bad sound quality, missing tracks or what.

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[drool]the Neil Young Archives Vol. 1 Trailer[/drool]


I'd say, even though this has been in the works for year, that its timing is definitely a product of the Prairie Wind era. The guy obviously has a massive ego and this is basically something to put out so that the legend lives on past his death. I'm happy to indulge him.


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haha!!

How were the recent arena shows you saw? I didn't get a chance to see him on this tour.


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Even though I don't own a BR player yet, I think that's the format I'm going to pick up. I'll probably need to donate a kidney to get it, but oh well.

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Even though I don't own a BR player yet, I think that's the format I'm going to pick up. I'll probably need to donate a kidney to get it, but oh well.


Yeah, I think if you're gonna spend the money on this thing, the DVD set is a pointless compromise. Blu-ray is the way to go, no doubt about it.


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Even though I don't own a BR player yet, I think that's the format I'm going to pick up. I'll probably need to donate a kidney to get it, but oh well.


Yeah, I think if you're gonna spend the money on this thing, the DVD set is a pointless compromise. Blu-ray is the way to go, no doubt about it.


It seems to buy a Blu-Ray player just for this archive and having the feeling the format may go the way of the Laserdisc is absurd.


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