i hain't no liberal, sonny, not like the damned media

This thread should be called Sacrifice; Dan Rather did more for this country than serial complainers like Bilzebub and his ilk could do in ten lifetimes....

god, why do you hate america?

Awesome! I always wanted an ilk.

I got no problem with Rather saying whatever the hell he wants. I have a huge problem with him doing it under the mantle of journalism. As I said before, identify his stuff as the op/ed pieces they are and everything's cool. Try to pawn it off as objective reporting and it's not.

Rather did stay too long. His colloquiallisms got a bit surreal in recent years, but he was a hell of a character and could run with a story for marathon sessions better than just about anyone.

I though he was a much better on the scene reporter than anchor though.

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np: The Birthday Party "She's Hit"

It's hard to have any real discussions about him, given his Liberal label and the current climate (read: divided). If a great moderate candidate hadda made it into office, and people were less concerned about each other's voting habits, I honestly think that if he'd done something of this caliber and been forced out early, the talks would've been altogether different. I just think back to 6 or 7 years ago, and it just doesn't seem like people cared quite so damn deeply about other peoples' political leanings, much less the leanings of anyone and everyone in the media / business world, etc. It's like the new litmus test. No discussion can avoid it.

So, his reports with firfighters after 911 are opinion because he asked questions about how they "felt" instead of just reporting that planes were flown into the towers?

Who the FUCK ever said tha a network anchor is a journalist. Anetwork anchor reads a prompter and if he is lucky, gets to edit his own content....and make $12 million a year.

Walter Cronkite and Ed Murrow had opinions and they expressed them publicly. Cronkite was a shill for the space program and very publicly came out against the conflict in Vietnam----today this would have him branded a "traitor" by what passes as a media on these cable outlets and their shadow businesses as syndicate columnists and radio hosts.

Dan Rather fucking served his country, he told the truth to the best of his ability. Sometimes those truths might be disagreeable to a certain philosophy but what is a man who is smart enough to be the front man for the network news, but not smart enough to think about what he is reporting?

And i would argue that Rather would have preferred to stay a reorter as opposed to an anchor. Maybe that was his ultimate weakness/downfall, but what is wrong with aspiring to be the anchor for the most respected news organization in the world and make enough paper to take care of your family forever?

Kirk should never have made Admiral.

They didnt Ky, because there is an open agenda by these monsters to discredit any opposition to their way of thinking----i mean who can argue against patriotism for the good ol' USA.

As a patriotic American who flys the flag and pays his taxes, it makes me sick to be thought of as un-American because i dont follow the lead of the prevailing political leaders.

or the opposition for that matter.

Nice cheap shot. I don't think anyone's said everything Rather's done was politically motivated or biased. There's nothing wrong with interviewing folks, and asking for their feelings.



I do. They report the news. They're not hosting an op/ed forum, they're reporting the news. As the top newsperson for their network, they absolutely should be held to the highest standard. Rather consistently failed this standard. And his network's credibility has been destroyed because of it.



Yeah? When?



Certainly calls into question his best "ability".

Funny how the dude was always "hard hitting", holding no punches when it was confronting the Nixons, Reagans, and Bushes. Yet when talking to the Clintons, all of the allegations were "unfair", or his "hard-hitting" stance would miraculously soften.

If you're going to be the hard hitting guy, hit everyone hard. When it's patently partisan, you're nothing more than a hypocrite.

Billz, no time for me to take apart your points individual--nice spirited argument though.....

-Your only seeing Rather's bias for the left shows that you haven't truly watched the CBS Nightly news or 60 Minutes for the past 20+ years.

-Dude has served his country by reporting the news and the news to come from every corner of the world for 50+ years. "Serving" is not some honor that only belongs to ex-millitary folks though they (especially ones that never actually did anything in the service, and the reguisite vet jock sniffers) love to deify themselves that way.

ahh, we'll probly just have to agree to disagree my man; or bump the thread and ill be back

And no less an authority than "Kenneth" himself would readily admit as much. In his career retrospective special, he said moving from reporter to anchor was an opportunity to throw himself into a new job and learn everything about it he could. The guy's appetite for knowledge was insatiable.

I was never much of a Rather fan during his actual tenure, but have since developed an enormous respect for him and appreciation for his contributions...Memogate not withstanding.

Good riddance to Dan. It's amazing the guy stuck around as long as he did with CBS news a distant 3rd behind NBC and ABC.

It's telling when Walter Cronkite and Mike Wallace take one last jab at him as he walks out the door.