south pacific Wrote:
robotboy Wrote:
a priority for the bears should be to sign torry holt
I don't know, dude is getting old though...only if the terms are good, say for a year or two. I heard that he had a pretty good year in 2008 when the Rams were "trying to phase him out" of their offense.
A good thing about this Cutler signing is the awareness among players around the league that Chicago is no longer a place where receivers go to die.
Can Marinelli help turn around this Bear defense though? That's a bigger concern/priority.
Here's the Cutler trade breakdown, complete with lazy non-Bears fan misspellings:
Urlacher will not be as good/possibly cut in 2 years (when he's 32). Same with Mike Brown(33), Ogunleye(33), Tillman (30), and the bulk of their defensive leaders. Offensive Linemen can still be effective when a bit older than 30 older (see Kreutz, Tate, the newly-signed Pace, and possibly Garza), but the Bears, even with the lack of a #1 receiver, have an incumbent Coach/GM tandem, and are built for the near-future. They needed a new QB (and to do so while MIN/DET are especially thin at that the position) to have any championship aspirations...
DEN had not-a-great-record this year. That being said, they play in possibly the weakest division in the NFL - it's relatively easy to get a Wild-Card berth when you play KC & OAK for 4 wins a year, and the inconsistent Chargers could make for an 1-1 push... New Coach + a lot of good players (Marshall at WR, the still-superhuman Bailey and Bly at CB, the emerging Bailey at LB, plus an insane blocking group at OL and a deceptively-penetrating group of DL's, and no more super contracts (besides the earning-his-keep Champ).
Let's say you have a clean slate as a coach, and are offered this trade as you're percieved to be in "rebuilding" mode:
A young (25) plus NFL QB (fringe 10) plus an extra 5th round pick you had for this year
for
A solid yet unspectacular QB who can start and/or compete for 2 seasons and make your team competitive in a weak division,
Pick # 18 in this years' draft (which could allow you to take a top 3 QB Prospect with either this pick or your #12 pick - Sanchez or Freeman - or else get 2 starters on either side of the ball)
A 3rd round pick (Special Teams stud and/or another developing starter for either side of the ball)
...and an extra 1st round pick for next year - possibly lower than 20 but, in the NFL, that's still a non-"essential" starter on either side of the field.
So, if you're team's getting old, you take the possible-franchise QB who is still a bit of a project, even if everything'll blow up in a few years, as that's a few years of job security and/or makes you a Championship contender....
...Yet, if you're a new coach, who can just-about break even in a weak division and buy yourself a year 2, you can deal a Pro Bowl (yet disgruntled) QB for a decent starting QB and 2 first rounders (3 very high draft picks overall) over the next 2 years to shape a not-that-old roster to your liking...
As for myself, in an overall-franchise point of view, I'd take Sir Neckbeard plus the 2 first round picks but, then again, I haven't been in charge of non-succeeding teams the past few years, and have little chance of being fired for making these judgments with negative money for a franchise involved.