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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/2 ... 92298.html


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on the NYTimes site as well

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Daily Kos is saying Specter didn't tell the GOP he was switching. They found out at noontime. Heh.

Snowe and Collins won't switch because their seats aren't in danger and they enjoy being power brokers.


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I was trying to figure out how Phil Spector could "go donkey," and was frankly afraid to find out.

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the press understands that it's only filibuster-proof when everyone votes along party lines, right?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I was trying to figure out how Phil Spector could "go donkey," and was frankly afraid to find out.


Yeah, I had avoided this thread for this very reason.


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Drano Wrote:
Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
I was trying to figure out how Phil Spector could "go donkey," and was frankly afraid to find out.


Yeah, I had avoided this thread for this very reason.


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I guess Bush's snubbing of him while he was in the White House during his chemo turned him.

I saw him on the Daily Show displaying a photo of Bush and himself where Bush showed the body language of someone who's disgusted to be in someone's presence.


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the press understands that it's only filibuster-proof when everyone votes along party lines, right?


Why are you trying to ruin today's narrative?

Also - this is a huge set up that has possible seeds of a way back for certain Republicans. "Even with 60 votes in the Senate, his agenda was just too far out there for Real Americans."

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Sen. Posh Oltorf LooGAR Wrote:
cotton Wrote:
the press understands that it's only filibuster-proof when everyone votes along party lines, right?


Why are you trying to ruin today's narrative?

Also - this is a huge set up that has possible seeds of a way back for certain Republicans. "Even with 60 votes in the Senate, his agenda was just too far out there for Real Americans."


"certain Republicans" = Republicans running in Republican districts?

I actually kinda like Pat Toomey but Arlen will roll him up in the General (though he would have been beaten like a dog had he stayed in the Repub. primary). Methinks its a political masterstroke.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Sen. Posh Oltorf LooGAR Wrote:
cotton Wrote:
the press understands that it's only filibuster-proof when everyone votes along party lines, right?


Why are you trying to ruin today's narrative?

Also - this is a huge set up that has possible seeds of a way back for certain Republicans. "Even with 60 votes in the Senate, his agenda was just too far out there for Real Americans."


"certain Republicans" = Republicans running in Republican districts?

I actually kinda like Pat Toomey but Arlen will roll him up in the General (though he would have been beaten like a dog had he stayed in the Repub. primary). Methinks its a political masterstroke.


Yep, and 53 seats held by Dems went for Bush and McCain...wuh whoa...

The Senate is another matter, but this has the potential to be a be careful what you wish for phenomenon, as for the next 2 years the Republicans will push very very hard to have Dems take ownership of Afghanistan and the economy.

The question is, can Obama pull a Reagan and effectively remind voters that this all because of the previous administration. Right now, I would argue yes, he will be able to, but if a dolt like me can see this potential, so can National Repub Strategists.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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But there's also the matter of hemorraghing enrollment. It's going to be harder and harder to rally the base if the base gets down to a clothing shop posing stand.


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Is this the opening that the Green Party (or another 3rd/4th party) has been waiting for?

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no guru Wrote:
But there's also the matter of hemorraghing enrollment. It's going to be harder and harder to rally the base if the base gets down to a clothing shop posing stand.


While I understand it's at a low ebb - google 2004 Permanent Republican Majority to see the last time this type of story poked its head out.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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"pulling a Reagan" really should be part of the obner lexicon


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