I know that I'm preaching to the choir here. But I just think that Gen. Powell hit the nail on the head there.

Yeah, it's been said before, but I don't think that it's ever been said better.

I wonder if he truly believes his own B.S. or if he's just drunk on his own influence.

You know, Rush is definitely doing more harm than good to his party - trying to push everybody out that he possibly can, essentially playing the role of Molotiv to Gingrich's Stalin and Eric Cantor's Trotsky to stretch a metaphor to it's breaking point - but I agree with his assessment of Powel endorsing Obama.

i think he's figured out that every time he says something obnoxious, his market value ticks upward

he's a squeaky wheel capitalist

Rush crossed over from clever opportunist to Redneck Messiah some time ago. He's not as batshit as Beck yet, but at least a lot of Beck is still performance "art." Rush is more like the local councilman heavy who can't tolerate being talked back to. You know, Rush, the kids in the Porky's movies always won out.

Also if these guys want to drive all the reasonable voices out of their own party, they're gonna wind up with only about a 10% party. That's a hell of a lot of new independants and temporary democrats itching to form a new party which just might be a worthwhile opponent to the Dems down the road.

Beck is only as Batshit as he is because he needed to out batshit Rush to be heard.

Is this the same Colin Powell that stood in front of the world and told them a pack of lies that started a war in which hundreds of thousands of people died?

At least Cheney or Rumsfeld or Bush were out-there, make no bones about being raving neo-con assholes. Powell literally got away with murder and remains the worst of all that lot for the very reason he makes so much about being 'moderate' but when it came down to it he dipped his arms in the vat of blood with all the rest. The man is such a spineless weasel he betrayed himself, never mind anything else, not that that was the most unpalatable consequence.

Rush, interminable gob shite that he is, isn't so "nasty" he has a mound of corpses on his conscious, Colin! Let the lies slip over you lips so that shrapnel rains down!

Colin Powell! So cuddly! Don't you just wish he was your grandpappy? What a lovely smile! Such soft features! Such moderate views for a Republican! Not like that Old White Fucker, Cheney! Never mind that Cheney or Rumsfeld or Bush only did what everyone knew they would, it was Powell that was duplicitous, not any of the rest of them.

Seneca killed himself rather than serve a corrupt state, not that any modern politician would have that much honour but to actually aid everything previously stood against with a deception perpetrated on people who trusted him above anyone else in that administration! Unforgivable!

Colin Powell! The timidity of Neville Chamberlain in the face of evil combined with the murderous alter-ego of Henry Kissinger! The worst man of the worst generation. A wretch and a liar.

Rush Limbaugh wishes he was as nasty as Colin Powell. Go to the grave with the screams of the dead in your ears.

Heh. Darrin, that's all possible. It's easier to believe that he was shut out and lied to. That would make him more sad-cuddly than evil-cuddly. Which may be what's his legacy is headed for.

The degree to which he was trotted out and then used as a scape goat leads me to side with shut out and lied to, but he's not entirely innocent.

I don't buy the "I didn't know" excuse at all. Lots of people saw through this shit with very limited information from the outside. No way somebody as in the heart of things as Powell didn't know something was up. The guy is a highly educated General. He's not some rube off the turnip truck. I didn't buy that shit from those in congress who voted to let Bush get his way and I don't but it from Powell either.

Also known as The Albert Speer Defence.

he was the vader to the cheney/bush composite palpatine

That Time article has good points and bad points, but it's assertation that Dems are not really that popular apart from Obama misses the irrevocable combination of generational shift, voter fedupedness and the rise of the internet and its genuine broadening of perception on a large swath of the electorate. It's so much harder to permanently get away with lies now. And voters have access to tools that ferret out those lies. Fear is still a huge weapon but conversely so is voter anger once the voter discovers the fear tactic was just a tactic.

That's not saying the Repubs won't rise. They probably will. I just don't think there's any going back to right wing social conservatives dictating majority agenda unless they can figure out another huge war, disease or some other threat.

For quite some time, I wasn't sure what to think of Powell and whether he should be hated. Now I think he was just politically out maneuvered. Watch Frontline's Bush's War if you haven't already.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/bushswar/

his beef was the gop over spending. . . "But he also said he wouldn't support any cuts in defense, Social Security, Medicare or Medicaid -- which, along with debt payments, would put more than two-thirds of the budget off limits."


wait. what?

it should be obvious that wurzelburger has no idea how economics/budgets/et al work outside his front lawn

(i can at least see to the end of my street)

another one for the discush: 5 Reasons the GOP will rebound

i only scanned this, but it seems like for most of it to work, they're gonna have to 1) put the God Squad back in its place, and 2) get the old guard to pry their withered old hands off the reigns so the new blood can get in and start making some sense

My god his reasoning is bad. People are disgusted with the Republican Party because much of the party's devolved into spiteful, spitting, fear-driven hypocrites distrustful of science, diplomacy, progress, any concept of financial and social interdependence and of anything "other." They're losing most of their moderates and a good deal of their libertarians. The moderates are not going to go libertarian. And the libertarians want the social conservatives to die in a hole somewhere.

The GOP will be back, but it won't be this party as it stands. It'll be something else altogether.

I'm amazed that Rush has lasted beyond flavor of the month [1995 or whatever that was].

haha...if only this would fit on a bumper sticker, it could have been this generation's "now more than ever"

your analogy is both apt and hilarious.