I'm saying, I'm shocked he got reinstated so quickly and easily. Playing in the NFL is not a right. I would've liked to see the Commish suspend him for a year (a real year when he wasn't already incarcerated) and make him go to the CFL or the new league or whatever for a year first.

Just FYI, he is not fully reinstated yet. Goodell will make the final decision in October:

For what reason? I mean the dude was incarcerated, why does he need to start from some lower level in the sport for which he has proven himself as a top level performer? Didn't ole Stallworth "serve" less time (30 days in jail--plus a shit load of house arrest and probabtion) for actually killing another human being than Vick served for this incident (18 months in prison--no idea what sort of probation he faces). I know, two separate cases...I just don't understand the idea that he has to work his way back up through some abstract and arbitrary program from the "minors" back to the big league.

I heard the 76ers had bad attendance last year. Is that more to do with philly being less of a b-ball city or have they been mediocre too long for the fans to still care?

I have no idea. I don't follow basketball.

i don't find anything interesting about this group of sixers, but the nba as a league is pretty boring to me. philly is historically a b-ball town, with six D1 NCAA teams, and a high quality high school system. I feel like the basketball fan base isn't as rabid as it once was, unrelated to the sixers sucking.

The phillies have had definitely had some years near the bottom of attendance when they were the worst team in baseball and still playing at the vet.

the flyers probably have the smallest fan base, but the most loyal. They haven't left the top 10 in attendance in many years, even when they were the worst team in hockey.

the Eagles have been by far the most favorite team for a long long time, and I'm curious to see how that is going to go in a post World Series, post Vick world.

I seriously don't think Philly's a non-basketball town, but then ticket sales have been pretty horrible. I think it's a combination of the high ticket prices (mez starts at $50) and the post-Iverson phenomenon, but I can't say for sure.

So, which one of the non-Obner GARS is this? The "infamous" Scotty D? Hassler?

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looks like a south east lebowski

Just wait til the other shoe drops about NNMARVIH fuhin them dogs, and all of the sexual congress with animals that was going on in the woods in VA.

I'll allege it - the last time MV7 got wood was the last time he squeezed the life out of a dog.

And, Philly fans deserve this kind of sideshow -- it gives them a degree of superiority they so rarely feel in their every day lives.

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Exactly. You cannot really think that Cowboys fans LooGAR & FT wouldn't kill to have a decent back-up behind Romo who might actually light a fire under his ass. Right now, Romo can do his second-gen Brett Favre act, & keep playing, knowing that BRAD FUCKIN' JOHNSON is behind him. With Vick in Big D, it would have been put up or shut up time.

Remember: Vick has three more playoff wins than TR, & one conference championship appearance ('04, v. Eagles). & his first playoff win was the first win by a visiting qb at Lambeau Field.

I hope they use him as a kick returner.

The first thing I said about this is that there are 2 owners in Philly's DIVISION that I would have suspected would sign MV7 before The Eagles did - Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder.

That does not negate Philly's epic inferiority complex (which is actually an over correction in regards to their inherent sorriness.)

Keep living in 1995. I don't by what definition of SORGY you rate Philly as such, but if it's championships, well, Dallas's last gasp in that area was Jimmy Johnson's unofficial 3rd Super Bowl. Otherwise, Mavs shat the bed in '06 -- though the officials acted as a stool softener (Dwyane was not fouled that much) -- & the Rangers... Well, I will be enjoying the inevitable Bobenfreude when they fail, again.

I'd rather have Kitna than a two-years-out-of-football Vick.

(Monty mentioned Johnson, who is no longer with the Cowboys, as they signed Kitna in the offseason to serve as Romo's ass flame.)

I didn't know if BJ was still in Big D, but I think the point remains: going from a journeyman who loped into a Super Bowl on the back of Monte Kiffin's defense, to a never-was (seat-warmer for Hasselbeck, then Carson Palmer, now Matthew Stafford) is not what the Boys needed.

Plus, I think eighteen months in Leavenworth did more to help Vick understand football than 0-16 did for Kitna.

Anyone see the James Brown interview on 60 minutes?

He seemed pretty genuine, like he was actually regretful of what he did...but I couldn't tell if he was regretful that he brutally hurt these animals and was ashamed of that fact or if he was regretful that he was rotting in a prison cell and not making bank on the football field.

We may have had an inferitority complex, but this changed a lot of things.

this picture made me think of this thread, and the question of philly being a basketball town

Yeah Atlanta is still Loserville, but winning one of those made it a lot easier to stomach.

Also, this is about Philadelphia as a whole, not just sports.