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ST. PAUL, Minn. (Reuters) - Eight people were shot dead and more than a dozen wounded on Monday by a student who opened fire at a high school and a home on the Red Lake Indian Reservation in northern Minnesota, authorities said.

Among the dead was a male security guard, a female teacher, three students and the gunman, FBI agent Paul McCabe said. As many as 15 other students were injured.

"They believe the shooter is among the dead and was acting alone," McCabe said.

Prior to the afternoon school shooting, the student shot dead a couple at a home on the reservation, McCabe said.

Other officials identified the couple as the gunman's grandparents, who were apparently among the dead. His grandfather was a longtime police officer on the reservation, a fire department official told CBS News.

"The young man, whoever he is, shot his grandfather and grandmother, and then went to the school and shot as many as 16 more," said Vernon Bellecourt of the American Indian Movement in Minneapolis.

The reservation is home to the Ojibwa tribe, commonly known as the Chippewa, Bellecourt said.

The shooting follows the March 12 shooting deaths of seven congregants at a church service near Milwaukee, Wisconsin, which ended when the gunman killed himself.

In 2003, a student at Rocori High School in central Minnesota gunned down two classmates. He is awaiting trial.


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Unreal.

I'm sure the NRA is already mobilizing.


Fucking tragic. :thumbsdown:


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Go America!

Hasn't there been a few of these spree killings just in the past week or so? There was the one in the church, this one and I'm sure there was an other last week.

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Apparently the kid's dad committed sucide and his mom is hospitalized with brain damage from a car accident.


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that's horrendous.


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people have been openly opening fire on innocent children for the past two years.....oh...wait.....thats in iraq.....


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Weird that I only heard a tiny bit about this story yesterday...& I WAS watching some news. They're just so wrapped up in this week's TV Movie story ( aka Ballad Of The Feeding Tube Lady ) that I guess there wasn't time to devote to this.


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Weird that I only heard a tiny bit about this story yesterday...& I WAS watching some news. They're just so wrapped up in this week's TV Movie story ( aka Ballad Of The Feeding Tube Lady ) that I guess there wasn't time to devote to this.


No doubt. I could care less about this Schiavo thing. Although it could pave the way to legal euthanasia which isn't bad.

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Nathan, come out of hiding and write a "Ballad Of The Feeding Tube Lady" for us.


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Nathan, come out of hiding and write a "Ballad Of The Feeding Tube Lady" for us.


Sounds like a job for that Randy Roadsteamer guy from the Worst Band Website thread. It'd fit right in with "Peeing With Your Father" and "I'm Sorry Your Cat Has Ass-Cancer."

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This is weird considering Marilyn Manson hasn't had a new album since 2003.

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I know this is stating the obvious but does anyone else notice that this is not getting the media frenzy coverage that Columbine did?

Do you think that America doesn't really care as much if we don't see the carnage unfold on TV?


Talk about a de-sensitized nation. I swear nothing surprises me anymore as far as violence and depravity in this country goes.


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I know this is stating the obvious but does anyone else notice that this is not getting the media frenzy coverage that Columbine did?

Do you think that America doesn't really care as much if we don't see the carnage unfold on TV?


Talk about a de-sensitized nation. I swear nothing surprises me anymore as far as violence and depravity in this country goes.


It's because they're Indians.

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This is weird considering Marilyn Manson hasn't had a new album since 2003.


Doom 3.

Oh, and we're more afraid than Canada. Doy. Think Michael Moore will crusade outside another K-Mart?


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Senator Do It Big LooGAR Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
I know this is stating the obvious but does anyone else notice that this is not getting the media frenzy coverage that Columbine did?

Do you think that America doesn't really care as much if we don't see the carnage unfold on TV?


Talk about a de-sensitized nation. I swear nothing surprises me anymore as far as violence and depravity in this country goes.


It's because they're Indians.

oh, beat me to it. i was just gonna say that.


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It's ironical: I just happened to watch bowling for colombine last night, and i was struck by how similar the towns featured in that film were to where i grew up, about four hours away from the shooting yesterday...
i wish i could say that i'm surprised, but shit like this doesn't do it anymore.

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That's interesting because the only Indian reservation I recall driving though looks nothing like Littleton, CO.

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The Guardian UK has better coverage than CNN.

The kid was/wanted to be a Nazi. Liked the idea of racial purity. Wore a black trench coat, liked Goth culture and listened to heavy metal music.

Talk about fitting a stereotype.

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I find it interesting that the UK websites have the shooting as their main story and have op-ed pieces up already while to US could really care less.

Loogar is right.

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An Indian Goth Nazi?

Damn.


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An Indian Goth Nazi?

Damn.


Word. :shock:

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if i am ever in this situation i will tell the gunman to shoot me in the fucking head quick or not shoot at all

hmm, i wonder

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Hm. I can't help but conclude that some of you have your blinders on. The story is not the lead on www.guardian.co.uk, though it is on www.msnbc.com, and there is full coverage on www.cnn.com.

Furthermore, you don't even seem to be saying that that this is really the most important story by all regards, but simply that the US is desensitized because it's not as highly covered as Columbine. But when incidents of violence figure prominently in the media, it's characterized by an obsession with violence, i.e. Scott Peterson.

And the kid probably was not an Indian if he was a Nazi named Jeff Weiss.

EDIT: I said "blindness" instead of "violence."


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And the kid probably was not an Indian if he was a Nazi named Jeff Weiss.



Maybe his full name was Jeff Weiss LittleFlower?

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