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Final Four Match-Up
(#2) Radiohead - Kid A 45%  45%  [ 24 ]
(#10) Wilco - Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 55%  55%  [ 29 ]
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harry Wrote:
An impossible choice, but the lyrics on YHF are just a lot better than:

In a little while
I'll be gone
The moment's already passed
Yeah it's gone
And I'm not here
This isn't happening
I'm not here
I'm not here


But you have to admit while some lyrics in general can be separated and retain a certain impact, I'd say Kid A is real right-brain kind of album and uncoupling the verbal and non-verbal components detracts a bit from the overall gestalt.

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DumpJack Wrote:
harry Wrote:
An impossible choice, but the lyrics on YHF are just a lot better than:

In a little while
I'll be gone
The moment's already passed
Yeah it's gone
And I'm not here
This isn't happening
I'm not here
I'm not here


But you have to admit while some lyrics in general can be separated and retain a certain impact, I'd say Kid A is real right-brain kind of album and uncoupling the verbal and non-verbal components detracts a bit from the overall gestalt.


No question. I agree. In a sense lyrics are "lyrical" and shouldn't be divorced from their uttered music. But I also think that words mean something... and there are stretches of YHF that, to me, approach poetry. Perhaps it is a poetry of the last century, with linguistic turns that owe a lot to country music... but I was always a sucker for folk wisdom over intellectualized angst. It's a pretty fine line between these two though ....

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harry Wrote:
DumpJack Wrote:
harry Wrote:
An impossible choice, but the lyrics on YHF are just a lot better than:

In a little while
I'll be gone
The moment's already passed
Yeah it's gone
And I'm not here
This isn't happening
I'm not here
I'm not here


But you have to admit while some lyrics in general can be separated and retain a certain impact, I'd say Kid A is real right-brain kind of album and uncoupling the verbal and non-verbal components detracts a bit from the overall gestalt.


No question. I agree. In a sense lyrics are "lyrical" and shouldn't be divorced from their uttered music. But I also think that words mean something... and there are stretches of YHF that, to me, approach poetry. Perhaps it is a poetry of the last century, with linguistic turns that owe a lot to country music... but I was always a sucker for folk wisdom over intellectualized angst. It's a pretty fine line between these two though ....


Well, I hope THIS isn't one of the stretches that you think approaches poetry:

It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
It's a war on war
There's a war on

You're gonna lose
You have to lose
You have to learn how to die

Let's watch the miles flying by
Let's watch the miles flying by
You are not my typewriter
But you could be my demon
Moving forward through flaming doors

You have to lose
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

Okay?

You have to lose
You have to lose
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

You have to die
You have to die
You have to learn how to die
If you want to want to be alive

Okay?



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I'm down on my hands and knees
every time I hear a doorbell ring
I shake like a toothache
every time I hear myself sing

All my lies are only wishes
I know I would die if I could come back new

I would like to salute
the ashes of American flags
And all the fallen leaves
filling up shopping bags

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Pitchfork gave the Kid A reissue a 10.0 today, so I can't think of a better reason to vote for Wilco.

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Donovan Wrote:
Pitchfork gave the Kid A reissue a 10.0 today, so I can't think of a better reason to vote for Wilco.


http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/867 ... l-foxtrot/

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Donovan Wrote:
Pitchfork gave the Kid A reissue a 10.0 today, so I can't think of a better reason to vote for Wilco.


http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/867 ... l-foxtrot/


Recency Effect.


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Pitchfork gave the Kid A reissue a 10.0 today, so I can't think of a better reason to vote for Wilco.


http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/867 ... l-foxtrot/


Recency Effect.


Yeah, I am more bothered by the "Best New Music" tag for a ten-year-old album.

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YHF by the distance from the earth to the moon.

Kid A still feels like a sham to me... The leak to YHF in those weird first weeks after 9/11 felt like a revelation and still feels pretty relevant a couple of oopsies excepted.

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the leak to YHF in those weird first weeks after 9/11 felt like a revelation.


I'll remember the feeling of that connection on my deathbed. Radiohead, if I am asked on my deathbed, will be like The Strawbs or Gentle Giant.

Given that my life partner is 16 years younger than I am, and that our first romantic conversation was on the relative merits of Brian May and Mick Ronson, this deathbed conversation could well happen.

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guys, this is Kid A against YHF.


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Yeah, I am more bothered by the "Best New Music" tag for a ten-year-old album.


Well, they do have a whole reissues section for that, also including Reckoning, Ill Communication, Hot Buttered Soul,...

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/best/reissues/

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These are arguably my favorite two albums of the decade (certainly of my college years at least) but I went with Kid A.


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as much as i'd love to see a wilco vs. mmj final, i really can't complain about this final four for the 2000's.

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I wanted to see Radiohead trump Wilco for my own personal satisfaction, but like E-Stone I have no faults with the final four.
I think we ended up with four quality yet not outstanding albums that are hated by a few but not entirely hated by one of the Obner voting Blocs.

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probably 2 of my fav 10 of the 00s, one that's probably on top..

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Given the final four, this should have been the final. Im sorry, but Arcade Fire?


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