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Kingfish Wrote:
American Beauty > Sweetheart of the Rodeo


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I'm a fan, but that whole. . .
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And the group's patchouli-oil philosophy, which does nothing more than reinforce solipsism and self-indulgence in its listener is exactly the sort of stuff that gave peace 'n' love a bad name
really turned me off after the 4th time i saw them. Sure it was a sub-culture freak out kinda neat thing to see but over the top and by the time I saw them they were just a traveling time capsule from the 60's with pretty much zero use for hppiedom.

I still enjoy some of their studio output and listen to them. I can't really enjoy a DixPix let alone the time to listen to one in full.

I should also add all the damn recorded live Dead I heard is one of the sole reasons I do not like Phish. I saw them once and left early. There was a conscious musical shift in my listening habits once I saw that group play.


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rparis74 Wrote:
Kingfish Wrote:
American Beauty > Sweetheart of the Rodeo


no

yes

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Sweetheart is probably my least favourite Byrds album.

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DumpJack Wrote:
Sweetheart is probably my least favourite Byrds album.


but its still better than anything the dead ever dreamed of doing


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rparis74 Wrote:
DumpJack Wrote:
Sweetheart is probably my least favourite Byrds album.


but its still better than anything the dead ever dreamed of doing


I'm probably in a better position to judge.

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DumpJack Wrote:
rparis74 Wrote:
DumpJack Wrote:
Sweetheart is probably my least favourite Byrds album.


but its still better than anything the dead ever dreamed of doing


I'm probably in a better position to judge.


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I'm not as familiar with Sweetheart, so I won't make any kind of definitive judgement between the two, but it was definitely an album that has yet to live up to the hype for me.

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I love how people assume that we must be Deadheads. Mention something like this to a Deadhead and they will shake their head :nono: in disapproval. Somehow, that is part of the allure.

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There's definately something interesting in a spectacle of excess.

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no assumptions by me, just recollecting my own experience with somewhat of an agreement to the Marsh quote when applied in the late 80's rather than '78 context.

GAR, Bloor, DJ deadheads? dixpix thread or not I'd laugh if patchouli really oozed from those pores but maybe.

From a personal perspective, many good friends that were traveling DHeads are now quite the opposite of that culture, actually quite far gone from the hippiedom as in "can't stand those hippies." So much for GD relevance for that generation.


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I just hung a tapestry, and old American Flag and my Bill Clinton Hemp Sack on the walls of my office.

That said, Dumpjack is the only one to have purchased a candle!

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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That said, Dumpjack is the only one to have purchased a candle!


Hippy win, life FAIL.


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Loogar in a costume Wrote:
I just hung a tapestry, and old American Flag and my Bill Clinton Hemp Sack on the walls of my office.

That said, Dumpjack is the only one to have purchased a candle!


I almost wore these to work today.

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Seafoam, what are you talking about? So, what, your friends grew up, like the rest of their generation? I'm guilty of the same dismissive attitude about hippies, for all the time I spent and occasionally still spend amongst them. It ain't got a thing to do with the music. Which is why we can still have a thread like the other one. Unfortunately with it always comes this unresolvable argument. To be honest, I agree with some of what Dave Marsh wrote about the Dead – sonically – not with his tone. His criticisms are some of what I love about the Dead.


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