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i hate the state of "indie" music......stuff that PF pushes, XMU (xm radio), etc, etc i use to totally dig. however now, i cant get into ANYTHING. pretty much anything i listen to has the staying power of basically 2 weeks if that.

anyone else feeling the same way?

i feel this got into full swing around 2007, but was brewing.

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every time I feel this way, something comes along and tickles my sack just right

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How old are you? I felt this somewhere around 29, but it passed.

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i could use some tickling

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How old are you? I felt this somewhere around 29, but it passed.


ha - 32

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you've got a case of what we like to call around here, "the billy g's".

this shall pass....

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i could use some tickling


check my J Roddy Walston thread.

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F**K You, Seriously, Dave Wrote:
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i could use some tickling


check my J Roddy Walston thread.


done - thanks

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I go through this about once a year where I'm just not feeling much stuff that's being put out there.

Usually I'll make a conscience decision to kind of get outside my comfort zone musically. I either find something really cool or it reminds me that there's lots of wankery in other genres as well outside of good 'ol reg rock.

Or just listen to a bunch of Jazz for week and cleanse the palette.


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A sad but true declaration Timis. I've chewed gum with more staying power than some of the current Indie crop. I'd much prefer moving forward with my music, but whenever I get bored I can usually "scrape the bowl" from past eras. Sometimes I can get pretty buzzed over one of those "where have I been?" bands.


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I sort of feel this way now but I do get into the occasional album still. For me, I think it's a combination of listening to way more music than I ever used to and not really discovering anything new this year that I've really loved.

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Rick Derris Wrote:
Or just listen to a bunch of Jazz for week and cleanse the palette.

this does wonders for music appreciation. i went a week in may not hearing any song apart from incidental muzak and whatnot. the first album i listened to after that break sounded incredible.


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I feel the same way, but it's more of a delayed response to certain bands/musicians. When I look at the "np" threads and the vast amount of music you folks listen to on a daily basis, I feel slightly retarded, in that it takes me much longer to absorb something, and by the time I do, it's considered passe here. (Of course, there are caveats to this; there are bands I immediately hate upon listening to the first time.) I just can't do the whole "download 20 albums today and listen to them all in one sitting." Nor do I want to.

I'll also go back to my standard soapbox argument that with the proliferation of "fast food" mp3 downloads, it's so easy to forget something after 2 weeks. I don't listen to the radio really, so quite often, I get my jones from what other people recommend, which has become slightly less reliable around these parts.

And then there's also the idea that maybe you have a life now, and aren't interested in pursuing that all the time? I definitely went through that around age 26-29, then went through a voracious consumer of all things from about 30-34. Now I just don't really care, and I like what I like, but I can guarantee that the vast majority of stuff I listen to, even now, is mostly unfamiliar to the layman listener, and I do still seek out new stuff vs. relying on the tried-and-true of yesteryear.


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I've been going through this for a while. The only thing I can repeatedly listen to are an occasional song that just really grabs me. I wish it were different. I started buying vinyl mainly to help combat my quick consumption of music. It's too easily forgotten these days.

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does this really have to do with age?


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I've been going through this for a while. The only thing I can repeatedly listen to are an occasional song that just really grabs me. I wish it were different. I started buying vinyl mainly to help combat my quick consumption of music. It's too easily forgotten these days.


That's a good idea. I miss my record player.


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I feel the same way, but it's more of a delayed response to certain bands/musicians. When I look at the "np" threads and the vast amount of music you folks listen to on a daily basis, I feel slightly retarded, in that it takes me much longer to absorb something, and by the time I do, it's considered passe here. (Of course, there are caveats to this; there are bands I immediately hate upon listening to the first time.) I just can't do the whole "download 20 albums today and listen to them all in one sitting." Nor do I want to.


Obner definitely makes me feel inadequate as a music fan. That said, I wouldn't know about half of the latest releases without it, either.

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I've been going through this for a while. The only thing I can repeatedly listen to are an occasional song that just really grabs me. I wish it were different. I started buying vinyl mainly to help combat my quick consumption of music. It's too easily forgotten these days.


That's a good idea. I miss my record player.


I find myself thinking like John Stuart in Half Baked, where he's going on about how much better everything is "... on WEEED..." but with vinyl. Like, the act of having to go dig it out and carefully T it up on the player, then switch sides, makes you sorta pay attention. Still doesn't make me go buy everything I want, but I would if I weren't always almost broke.

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I got music overload about two years ago. I stopped all the efforts to download a ton of music to listen to in the hopes of discovering something new that I loved.
I've spent most of my time trying to dive into the 1200 cd's that I already have to soak them in and fall in love, or to ultimately dismiss them. This is the main reason I didn't renew my eMusic subscription. (This and having to find music to download each month before my credits would vaporize.)

Downloading tons of discs and songs creates an organizational mess on my computer, where I spend a ton of time renaming and organizing files for crap that I am going to end up not liking.

I had to put a lot of effort into the discs that I wanted for winning the Baseball league, and some of them I don't care for now that I have given them a proper listen.


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jsh Wrote:
does this really have to do with age?


No, but I also think Timis is talking about certain fads in indie music right now and they just aren't for him and are also all disposable. I can agree to some extent.

Do we really need another nu-hippie folk/folk-rock/indie pop band? No.

Do we need another Afro-pop/"world" music/tropical influenced band like Surfer Blood or Fool's Gold? No.

Do we need another new-age "chill-wave" gal or guy duo or solo project put out on a CD-R every week? No.

Do we need another proto-garage/O3CGR band? No.

Do we need another shoegaze/guitar effects band re-hashing that late 80s-early 90s trend? No.

I have the same reaction as Derris. About once or twice a year, I get fed up with the same ol' shit and question if anyone is putting out anything original that piques my interest, then a month or two later something pulls me out of the slump. 2009 in general has been a year full of MOR "decent" records that will likely be in my Top 20, but only because I *have* to have a Top 20 :roll:


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you've got a case of what we like to call around here, "the billy g's".

this shall pass....


damn...when do they pass?

I wouldn't make any grandiose statement about the quality of all current music. I just think that its harder and harder to sort through the proliferation of available new music to find the stuff that really resonates with me. I'm sure there's stuff there but its just not worth the effort to me anymore.

I grew tired of listening to 100 meh albums to find 10 i somewhat liked and 1 that really excited me. It used to be that the desire to see bands live on their way up would motivate me to stay current but at least in LA bands so quickly outgrow the smaller venues now that it doesn't motivate me anymore. I'm more likely to be able to see an old favorite like Al Kooper or Lloyd Cole or Leon Russell at a small venue than I am to see the flavor of the day.

I still buy tons of music and seek out stuff that's new to me but I care far less about staying current. What gets me excited these days musically is not finding a new band of twenty something indie rockers but learning more about niche genres like country rock, bluegrass, or black spiritual jazz, or tracing back the artists that influenced my favorite artists to give me a deeper and richer understanding of musical history and their contributions to it while discovering more great music in the process.


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I'm sure every generation has fallen out of love with whatever the dominant youth culture of the time was, its part of growing up, but this time it really is different.

Music is in the process of transforming. Music now means something different to the 'new' generation of music makers and consumers. The music world we thirty somethings knew, that we grew up with and felt connected to is winding down, it is in the process of disappearing.

Think back to the world you were born into, or even the world you knew as a teenager. It's gone now, as gone as the Augustan age or the Golden Horde. Why should music continue to be made in what is increasingly an outmoded idiom when virtually nothing of it is relevant to today?

What is happening now is not simply another fad. The world changed in the mid 1980's. It's undeniable that one age ended and another one began just about at the time the current generation of young people were born. It came about through unprecedented technological change and everything that came along with that.

A new cycle of cultural development is beginning, it will take a generation, maybe two, to come fully into effect but by the end of our lives the music scene will seem as incomprehensible to us as Elvis Presley did to our great grandparents, the music we discuss on this board will seem as arcane to our grandchildren as music hall or waltz is to us.

The 80 year run of musical progression being built on the foundations of what came before is almost over. We are entering a new age and you probably aren't going to like it very much.

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i've been going back and forth with this since I was 22. When new music annoys me, there is always more old music to explore. And as someone else said, to rediscover my existing collection.

sometimes a few albums from this site help cleanse the pallet

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e-stone Wrote:
you've got a case of what we like to call around here, "the billy g's".

this shall pass....


I wouldn't make any grandiose statement about the quality of all current music. I just think that its harder and harder to sort through the proliferation of available new music to find the stuff that really resonates with me. I'm sure there's stuff there but its just not worth the effort to me anymore.

I grew tired of listening to 100 meh albums to find 10 i somewhat liked and 1 that really excited me..


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I've found myself really enjoying classic rock more...stuff that has proven the test of time.

Zeppelin
Beatles
The Who
Classic stuff from U2, Metallica, Megadeth.

It tends to be stuff that was influential to a lot of people and blew the doors off of what other people were doing at the time.


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