you didn't like my girls or summertime clothes? i'm not the biggest fan of AC, didn't really like them before their latest album, but there's some really great songs on it.

bluish is awesome too.

No. Radiohead has REALLY good live show whereas Animal Collective don't, at all.

I'm not sure how much that really matters in terms of this whole "importance" thing.

Because andyfest's posts has nothing to do with "importance" and everything to do with Animal Collective becoming the next "Radiohead". Animal Collective won't be an arena or 20,000 capacity amphitheatre act any time soon.

I don't know what thread I'm in.

he also said next decade though, so it's conceivable they could be there by the middle of it.

holy shit does this idiot want to suck my cock.

I mentioned earlier this year that i think AC have the capabilities of becoming just as big as Radiohead. They're creatives with a gang load of talent, similar to Radiohead. Always expanding on their sound, and always surprising even the biggest fan. That's brilliance in my opinion.

Also, Radiohead are a superb, if not THE BEST live show atm, but it's taken them a while to get there. AC are still in their "early days" as far as I'm concerned. And I don't think they're bad live at all.

HAHAHA!!! I didn't think you were gonna let that slide.

The reason I asked the question did have more to do with importance. Love them or hate them, respect them or call their music annoying drivel, AC just seems like they are in a very similar place right now to where Radiohead was around the time Kid A came out.

I think AC have begun to have the same relevance Radiohead has had this decade and MPP is the album that's really starting to put them at that level even though they've had popularity and acclaim prior to MPP.

Obviously, it's purely subjective but I think it's an interesting topic to debate.

agree 100%.

Since AC have already released more good albums than Radiohead, they'll probably be bigger.

animal collective are always one step ahead - bands are sounding like them, but they're consistently reinventing themselves, even with this ep - and so have been radiohead, but they're not still making their best records (are they? maybe i'm wrong). animal collective have been ever since sung tongs. in that way they're as relevant as radiohead. as much as i love ac live, they could be much better of a spectacle. we'll see if they can take it there after this film of theirs and once they've taken an anticipated break. i'm honestly surprised at how popular ac are. their sound is out there, further than radiohead's. mpp is essentially the only accessible lp they've put out. fall be kind may win them more grateful dead fans is all.

Radiohead were actually popular, Animal Collective are popular among a clique. No comparison.

holy shit this is dumb.

what's wrong with what he said?

what fucking clique?

This is true, sort of. In the first half of their career Radiohead almost pulled a Talk Talk in that they were initially popular as just another entry into a pervasive mainstream phenomenon - brit pop/alt-rock for Radiohead and new wave for Talk Talk - but then they got progressively weirder and more challenging. Radiohead managed to take way more people along for the ride, though, possibly because they stayed more commercially viable in the interim. (The Bends was loaded with great singles that were everywhere at the time.)

Animal Collective sort of have the opposite trajectory. They've gone from DIY underground to playing on Conan O'Brien, and they've gotten a lot less weird and challenging in the process. It's not a better/worse thing, but I think the popularity of the two groups isn't entirely comparable. AC's cult follwing will continue to grow, but I think if anything they'll be more the equivalent to the Flaming Lips in the coming decade than Radiohead.

Plus, MPP may be a great record, but its nowhere even close to OK Computer/Kid A.

The hype may be at the same level, but they are not near the level that radiohead was at, at this point. if anything they're more like REM.

Agreed. AC hasn't had a "Yellow" moment yet, and like it or not, I think that kind of over-exposure (and resulting cash flow) had a lot to do with what Radiohead eventually became.

Uh, Cap'n - stop seeing Todd's doctor.

I think he meant "Creep" but I got his point (i guess)

Also,



Got a chuckle

So did his Flaming Lips suggestion. Otherwise I agree with what Drinky wrote. AC have been moving forward in reverse ever since they first put on the masks.

Really?

Because I think their live show is based on a similar kind of spectacle, albeit a more "serious" one. It may be kind of a low bar to aspire to as The Flaming Lips are probably only just a little bit bigger than AC at the moment, but they're still more generally well known. If people don't know who they are, tell them it's the band that did "Do You Realize??" or "She Don't Use Jelly", and most of them will know at least one of those songs. And I could totally see AC as the type of band that could be headlining stuff like Bonnaroo and curating other festivals and stuff in the very near future. I don't, however, see them selling out arenas like Radiohead and getting that level of mainstream recognition.

yes. thank you. very little sleep last night.