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Aww shit, the Brian Kelly rumors are going to be swirling.


I wouldn't be all that worried. Notre Dame allegedly has a contract waiting for Bob Stoops's signature on it. Thus why he can say he hasn't interviewed, yet still negotiate a deal.

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It is five years to the day that Ty Willingham was fired from Notre Dame, that's pretty funny.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701625

The Bobby Bowden Era is over.

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Promethium Wrote:
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The Bobby Bowden Era is over.


Dern. One of the best.

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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701625

The Bobby Bowden Era is over.


Dern. One of the best.


Love him or hate him, he did his damn thing.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701625

The Bobby Bowden Era is over.


Dern. One of the best.



I've always hated Fla. State, and the kind of coach Bowden was. However, I always like him as a personality. And you can't argue with his success.

Little known fact - In 80' Bowden was going to take the LSU job because he thought he had maxed out what Fla. St. was capable of. Then he beat LSU and decided that Fla State had the potential to be a powerhouse.

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In the 80's when I became fascinated with FSU, they would play anybody, anywhere, run some fucked up gadget plays on offense and beat the living shit out of you on defense with dudes who could run 4.4's but not read their own names. It was like a white trash Miami U or pass happy Sooners. And Bowden was never as big of a dick as JJ, Barry, Osborne or Spurrier.

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In the 80's when I became fascinated with FSU, they would play anybody, anywhere, run some fucked up gadget plays on offense and beat the living shit out of you on defense with dudes who could run 4.4's but not read their own names. It was like a white trash Miami U or pass happy Sooners. And Bowden was never as big of a dick as JJ, Barry, Osborne or Spurrier.


How was Osborne a dick?
I realize I can't possibly be fully objective on him, but he's always been considered one of the true gentlemen of the sport. Thus, why he had positive relationships with Bowden and Barry during his tenure.
Nebraska was one of the first powers to regularly schedule FSU in the 80's.
I can see faulting him for allowing certain players to play for the Huskers in the 90's, but I've always attributed to his naivety and Father complex.
I didn't hate Bowden, but I have always thought he got a little too smarmy in the 90's during the Free Shoes scandal and other controversies.
I also still loathe FSU for their controversial victory over Nebraska in the 1994 Orange Bowl, a victory that gave Bowden his first title.

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He had an air about him that I never liked, Prom. Plus, when you play the Father Flanegan card and then recruit not only the likes of Lawrence Phillips but open gang members and other derelicts of society, you open yourself to criticism.

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LooGAR'sFailsgivingDinner Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
Promethium Wrote:
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4701625

The Bobby Bowden Era is over.


Dern. One of the best.


Love him or hate him, he did his damn thing.


So, Mark Richt back to Tallahassee? Would you GARS even miss him?


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Even if he was offered the job he would never do that to jimbo fisher.


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So, Mark Richt back to Tallahassee? Would you GARS even miss him?


I most definitely would, Derris would, GAR sorta would depending on the day, and Stu wouldn't miss him at all until we got a new coach he could complain about--then he could complain that UGA let him go.

And for the record, I think if CMR were to ever go anywhere, it would be Miami not FSU.

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He had an air about him that I never liked, Prom. Plus, when you play the Father Flanegan card and then recruit not only the likes of Lawrence Phillips but open gang members and other derelicts of society, you open yourself to criticism.


That's cool, that is generally my criticism of the man. That "Air" is why I didn't like the man as a politician, especially with his puritanical loathing of booze and gambling. I didn't really notice it during his coaching days, and it has seem to gone away since his defeat in the election for Governor.
I would have never called him a dick for it, I think I would have said "holier than thou" in a smug, contemptible way. At least you aren't one of those people who hate him for constantly hanging a half hundred points on the little six schools of the Big 8.

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In the (flawed) system of college football, I will never begrudge any coach (even Spurrier at UF) for running up the score. in a world where writers and computers decide the ultimate winner, style points count.

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Weighing in on Bowden.......the putting of a legend out to pasture is never easy but I think Florida State has been more than fair with Bowden. There is only one way to really send a guy out on top and that's to win a Championships and those chances are slim to none right now at FSU and slim just left town.

I just don't think you can continue to ask the FSU fanbase to keep putting up with mediocrity. I mean, "how will Bobby go out" has overshadowed the entire program for 2 years now and if I'm a recruit why do I want to go to a school that is in such disarray. How many people thought that the Florida game was a foregone conclusion before it even kicked? Can you imagine that circa '95 or '98? Hell, even '02 or '03. They just aren't there anymore and they are losing to bad ACC teams these days.

Guy was an incredible ambassador for CFB but it's simply time to move on.


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glad captain lapband finally walked the plank

i'm hoping for gary patterson, but expecting brian kelly

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I also still loathe FSU for their controversial victory over Nebraska in the 1994 Orange Bowl, a victory that gave Bowden his first title.


Rightfully should have been Notre Dame's. Both ND and FSU had one loss. Both won their respective bowl games. ND beat FSU head to head LATE in the season. Most flawed final poll outcome EVER!!!

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Weighing in on Bowden.......the putting of a legend out to pasture is never easy but I think Florida State has been more than fair with Bowden. There is only one way to really send a guy out on top and that's to win a Championships and those chances are slim to none right now at FSU and slim just left town.

I just don't think you can continue to ask the FSU fanbase to keep putting up with mediocrity. I mean, "how will Bobby go out" has overshadowed the entire program for 2 years now and if I'm a recruit why do I want to go to a school that is in such disarray. How many people thought that the Florida game was a foregone conclusion before it even kicked? Can you imagine that circa '95 or '98? Hell, even '02 or '03. They just aren't there anymore and they are losing to bad ACC teams these days.

Guy was an incredible ambassador for CFB but it's simply time to move on.


almost happened to JoePa, if he hadn't pulled 2005 out of his ass

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I also still loathe FSU for their controversial victory over Nebraska in the 1994 Orange Bowl, a victory that gave Bowden his first title.


Rightfully should have been Notre Dame's. Both ND and FSU had one loss. Both won their respective bowl games. ND beat FSU head to head LATE in the season. Most flawed final poll outcome EVER!!!


I disagree, Auburn was the only unbeaten team left after Nebraska was screwed over by the refs, but could not play in a bowl game due to probation. They probably deserved it more than the Irish, who struggled in the Cotton Bowl against a relatively low ranked A&M team.

This article basically states why nobody was deserving, and how Nebraska got f'd over.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/footba ... rangebowl/

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glad captain lapband finally walked the plank

i'm hoping for gary patterson, but expecting brian kelly



I think Brian Kelly is a better fit than Patterson. Oddly, I don't think ND ends up with either.

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This is pretty fucked up. Florida has such a lead in the BCS poll, that should they lose a close game to Alabama, they could still edge out an unbeaten Texas, TCU, Cincinnati and Boise State in the final poll to make the title game. They just can't fall below #3 or have Texas advance in the Computer polls.
I could see a lot of Eastern and Southern Pollsters keeping them in the top #3.

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I don't see any way that happens. If it does, all hell will break loose and it'll be another nail in the coffin of the BCS.

I think most pollsters recognize that the SEC Championship is win or go home.


Also, you'd be surprised. A lot of writers down here think that Florida have been less than impressive this year despite being undefeated.


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So, Mark Richt back to Tallahassee? Would you GARS even miss him?


I most definitely would, Derris would, GAR sorta would depending on the day, and Stu wouldn't miss him at all until we got a new coach he could complain about--then he could complain that UGA let him go.

And for the record, I think if CMR were to ever go anywhere, it would be Miami not FSU.


more souls to save in Miami...

I want nothing short of perfection for the team I've loved since I was born. I don't see anything wrong with that. We're far from perfect right now and have been inconsistent during Richt's tenure. That inconsistency directly correlates with lack of discipline and drive to be champions.


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FT Wrote:
glad captain lapband finally walked the plank

i'm hoping for gary patterson, but expecting brian kelly


I hope Brian Kelly gets it and does well. He's held in very high regard around these parts, putting GVSU on the map and going 41-2 his last three years there.

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